right hi guys hope u can help. the story is such... i have a ASUS P5S800VM board...brought in a packard bell Imedia1507 in october...i had a dodgy mid bios update crash back in november and the pc wouldnt boot to xp.... Due to not having a reocvery disk i used the xp recovery disk from my dads Medion comp...my comp returned and was all good but i had lost and parkard bell software. It was like a clean xp installation. Anyway as you will probs know, packard bell provide bios updateds..they are called santiago bios updates, they have only provided 2 updates recently and also they're bios updates dont allow fully bios control..so no overclocking or ram timing tweaks. I have tried all methods of asus updates and bios updates non work. i cant even use asus probe...as while i install is pops up with an error message saying " can only be used on asus boards" when i try the EZ flash from boot it finds and reads the file off the cd i burnt in onto, but then says flash failed. When i try use the windows based flash utitly it says that model of the bios image doesnt match that of the one currently installed and will not allow me to continue....any ideas? plus is there a way of just forcing the bios to update??