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graphics card and procesor

Discussion in 'New to PC gaming & upgrade advice' started by SemperFitz, 19 Apr 2018.

  1. SemperFitz

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    Hi all,

    My last PC was built 6 years ago and its time for a bit of an upgrade, I'm a bit out of touch with all the various options these days so was hoping for some advise. Below are the specs of my current set up and im looking to improve graphics card and procesor...here's the kicker budget is a small £250

    i would like to improve gaming quality, but its not the deal breaker. If i was to look at something like

    NVIDIA GeForce GTX1050

    would that work with my current MB?

    ati phenom (. AMD Bulldozer FX 8120
    Gigabyte GA-78LMT-S2P
    12GB DDR3 Corsair 1600 (3 x 4Gb)
    Integrated Sound Card
    XIGMATEK SCORPION HDT-S1283 COOLER
    60Gb SSD SATA Solid state hard drive
    500GB SATA Hard Drive SATA 3
    ATI HD 7770 (1024MB PCI Express DDR DVI)
    CiT Saturn Midi Tower Gaming Case with 2 x Red LED Fans
    CiT 600W Gold Edition PSU


    Appreciate any feed back guys and girls

    Ty
     
  2. Minibiker

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    With a budget like that bud theres not much you can do.... As your system is DDR3 theres not much to upgrade to, DDR4 is the next step but that would mean changing basically everything in your system, RAM/Motherboard/CPU so youll need more than £250

    Im pretty sure the 1050 will slot straight into your board no hassle and will be a big difference to your current card, On the other hand if its only your GPU your looking to upgrade then maybe a used GTX970 for £150ish
     
  3. orbitalwalsh

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    gtx 1050 would give a much needed boost! although AMD new ryzen really does wipe the floor with FX cpus , specially at 1080p

    thought i'd try a different approach to get CPU & GPU upgraded in one ! Vega 11 in the 2400G is between gtx 1030 and 1050 in power - more closer to 1030 but still better then current HD 7770 you have.

    also ryzen 2400 is true 4 core and 8 thread beast. the FX isn't technically 8 cores, more like 4 and was a poor design

    Below gives you the option to chuck in a GPU at later stages in life, or even 3rd gen ryzen core either new or seond hand in 2-4 ears time :D

    My basket at Overclockers UK:
    Total: £287.43 (includes shipping: £10.50)
    [​IMG][​IMG][​IMG]

    just a different approach to updating the whole sum

    ryzen 1200 which is a 4 core 4 thread vs FX 8350 which is one up from yours . Not the perfect comparison , but shows you even with GPU update, CPU is lagging still

     
  4. Minibiker

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    ^^ This is definitely a good step forward from your older platform, Atleast with the integrated GPU on these CPU's you can do some gaming while you save up for a GPU at a later date... Like Orbital has said its onboard GPU is between a 1030 and 1050 and thats still great performance from an onboard GPU... I had a GT1030 in my Ryzen build for a few months and was loving it, for a budget GPU it does run well
     
  5. orbitalwalsh

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    just wish they did 2600g with vega 20!! or intel+vega chip came to LGA form :(
     
  6. ExoMale

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  7. orbitalwalsh

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    My basket at Overclockers UK:
    Total: £249.08 (includes shipping: £11.10)
    [​IMG][​IMG]

    :D

    though again, losing FPS on the CPU
     
  8. ExoMale

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    smart arse ha, i did think of a 3gb 1060, but i didnt want to skimp on the power supply either and i doubt that nurf version be a big improvement over the 1050ti, but knowing from my own experience, its certainly handy to have 4gb vram, suppose if OP wanted to play ghost recon wildlands for example, high/very high preset will be possible at 2.3 & 2.7gb usage, admittingly none of the games ive been testing so far have used more than 3gb vram unless i try push ultra/epic. rb6s needs a whopping 6.? gb vram for max setting :eek:
     
  9. SemperFitz

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    so you think my current processor is OK for the time, upgrade to a better graphics card and cooler will give decent results? then look at a Ryzen later perhaps?
     
  10. pastymuncher

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    Psu as well. CiT are abysmal units. That so called 600w psu of yours only has 384w across it's 12v rails and I very much doubt if it could get anywhere near that without blowing up. The psu is not the place to save money.
     
  11. orbitalwalsh

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    whats your monitor ? would personally side with going APU due to nvidia range out Q3 and i believe AMD Q4 (didnt pay any attention ) , so would wait to see current GPUs return to normal price of flood second hand market - means you can also pick up a decent 450w PSU :D

    also what res you gaming at?
     
  12. SemperFitz

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    Jeez, im so out of touch!

    I have no idea what res im gaming at. monitor is Asus VE247H.

    Frankly after doing some reading its -blam-ing ridiculous the amount of options there are. I don't know how a user is supposed to understand all the different crap. Didn't seem this difficult 10 years ago.
     
  13. SemperFitz

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  14. orbitalwalsh

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    Damn good PSU and chip, but PSU is tad over kill unless you plan on Nvidia **70/80 series of cards. Formula 450w will cover **60 series of cards nicely . But 550 will allow you to splash out on cad performance in the future

    My basket at Overclockers UK:
    Total: £354.02 (includes shipping: £11.10) ​
    [​IMG][​IMG][​IMG][​IMG]
     
  15. SemperFitz

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    So if i went Ryzen 5, formula 450 PSU and kept current ram and motherboard that should give me the boost i require? The motherboard you suggest is something id require if i was to go DDR4, correct?
     
  16. orbitalwalsh

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    You'll need to full package listed above . Different socket and animal all together

    Might be able to sell off your current core components as a bundle or least flog the ram :)
     
  17. SemperFitz

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    Damn! so much to think about. perhaps a stretch of budget is required or just wait for a new system...then be back to ask again :D

    Appreciate your advice people, thanks you
     
  18. orbitalwalsh

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    no worries, why i think of the APU package- gets your a core system better then current and future proof - with being able to have GPU added at later point, but the internal GPU offering better performance then your current GPU
     
  19. Potty27

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    I'd be inclined to go used at that budget, except for the psu, should be able to get a 550-600w "80+ bronze" branded for around £40

    Something like a used 4th gen i5 mobo/cpu/ram (16gb ideally) combo, could probably get for around £150.

    Then add a used gpu, something like a R9 280x for around £80.

    I'm a bit out of date too, but my wife uses a spec like the above and it runs things pretty well at 1080p in mid-high settings.