GTX260 OC vs 8800GTX Is It Worth It?

[AWPC]

No threads on this yet but I see that OCUK are now selling the following:

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=GX-072-BG

- Bus Type: PCI Express 2.0 (Backwards compatible with PCI Express)
- Memory: 896MB GDDR3
- Core Clock: 590MHz
- Shader Clock: 1296MHz
- Memory Data Rate: 1998MHz
- Processor Cores: 192
- Shader Model: 4.0
- Texture Fill Rate: 36.9 Billion/sec.
- Memory Interface: 448-bit
- Memory Bandwidth: 111.9GB/sec.
- API Support: Microsoft DirectX 10 and lower, OpenGL 2.1 and lower for Microsoft Windows
- Display Connectors: 2 Dual-Link DVI-I, HDTV + TV Out
- RAMDACs: Dual 400MHz
- HDCP Capable
- HDMI Capable
- 2-Way & 3-Way NVIDIA SLi Support
- Card Dimensions: 266.7mm x 95.3mm x 38.1mm
- 10 Year Manufacturer Warranty (Contact BFG representative on 001 866 234 3499 for warranty services)
- 24/7 Email Manufacturer Support (http://www.bfgtech.com/tech_redux.html)

Would this be a worthwhile upgrade from an 8800GTX @ 1360x768 with max AA + AF + Vsync. Obviously no reviews as yet but I am guessing it is not much more than 15% behind the GTX280 and obviously a lot cheaper!

 

[helmutcheese]

Keep your GTX unless you struggling in all but 1 buggy game and a few bad ports), you should still be good for 1920's + AA+AF for a while to come IMO.

Edit, if you game at that crazy low RES above do not buy a new card, buy a 22"-24" LCD and enjoy your 8800GTX.

TBH a 8800GTX is wasted and overkill at that RES, you could have got a lesser card.

 

[Metalface Mark]

No threads on this yet but I see that OCUK are now selling the following:

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=GX-072-BG

- Bus Type: PCI Express 2.0 (Backwards compatible with PCI Express)
- Memory: 896MB GDDR3
- Core Clock: 590MHz
- Shader Clock: 1296MHz
- Memory Data Rate: 1998MHz
- Processor Cores: 192
- Shader Model: 4.0
- Texture Fill Rate: 36.9 Billion/sec.
- Memory Interface: 448-bit
- Memory Bandwidth: 111.9GB/sec.
- API Support: Microsoft DirectX 10 and lower, OpenGL 2.1 and lower for Microsoft Windows
- Display Connectors: 2 Dual-Link DVI-I, HDTV + TV Out
- RAMDACs: Dual 400MHz
- HDCP Capable
- HDMI Capable
- 2-Way & 3-Way NVIDIA SLi Support
- Card Dimensions: 266.7mm x 95.3mm x 38.1mm
- 10 Year Manufacturer Warranty (Contact BFG representative on 001 866 234 3499 for warranty services)
- 24/7 Email Manufacturer Support (http://www.bfgtech.com/tech_redux.html)

Would this be a worthwhile upgrade from an 8800GTX @ 1360x768 with max AA + AF + Vsync. Obviously no reviews as yet but I am guessing it is not much more than 15% behind the GTX280 and obviously a lot cheaper!

Its not worth it at your resolution, im sure the 4850 is half the price and faster than the 260, it also handles AA+AF a lot better.

 

[TheGamingGeneral]

in before 4870

 

[willhub]

I dont think the 4850 is faster but no way would I choose a GTX260 over a 4850 the price is insane, infact when you think about it maybe 4850 is faster since you can get nearly 2 of them for the price of a GTX260 so its win win getting the 4850

 

[helmutcheese]

The ATI card has nothing to do with OP's Q.

He does not need a new card, he does not even need a 8800GTX to play at that Low Res even with AA+AF.

I stand by the keep card and buy a bigger LCD.

 

[MinDBlanK]

I stand by the keep card and buy a bigger LCD.

Agreed

 

[AWPC]

Keep your GTX unless you struggling in all but 1 buggy game and a few bad ports), you should still be good for 1920's + AA+AF for a while to come IMO.

Edit, if you game at that crazy low RES above do not buy a new card, buy a 22"-24" LCD and enjoy your 8800GTX.

TBH a 8800GTX is wasted and overkill at that RES, you could have got a lesser card.

Already have a 24" TFT!

Believe it or not the 8800GTX cannot handle many games with AA + AF + vsync @ 1360x768. It just cannot do it even on an X6800 with 4GB Ram under either XP or Vista (I dual boot).

Assassins Creed is a slideshow without AA in several places.

Sega Rally is ok with 2 x AA anything more it stutters badly.

Gears Of War & NFSrostreet are slideshows with any AA applied and both jerk badly unless vsync is disabled.

Crysis is fine with 4 x AA

COD4 is fine with 8 x AA

Bioshock is very smooth with 8 x AA (under DX10)

What I cannot determine is the slowdown due to badly coded games or does the 8800GTX lack something (perhaps the best driver from Nvidia as they are known to cripple older cards to force an upgrade) for more recent games to work smoothly on as many which should do not.

 

[helmutcheese]

Something is wrong, I game all games (apart from obv one) at 1920x1440 and get high FPS with Full AA+AF.

I do not need/use V-Sync as never ever seen Tearing on any of my CRT's (High end 19" and then 22" from 2001 till today).

I dont think that would matter as it would still give you a Min Ceiling of 60FPS if your LCD is 60hz.

I found why I got like 10-20FPS in Sega Rally Revo, I always forced Super AA in the Nvidia CP but it CONFLICTS with the Games Multisampling AA in the Games Menu, after fixing that it was 60-80FPS.

Have you got MS-AA or SS-AA Forced in the NV CP ?.

 

[willhub]

The ATI card has nothing to do with OP's Q.

He does not need a new card, he does not even need a 8800GTX to play at that Low Res even with AA+AF.

I stand by the keep card and buy a bigger LCD.

No but what it says is basically if you do upgrade dont get a GTS260 get a 4850 as its clearly the best card, so nothing wrong with me saying that...

 

[MinDBlanK]

Thats a strange res for a 24" monitor.

4870 would be best i think if you can wait.

 

[helmutcheese]

No but what it says is basically if you do upgrade dont get a GTS260 get a 4850 as its clearly the best card, so nothing wrong with me saying that...

He does not need it period for 1300's.

There is something far wrong with his issue in post #8

 

[willhub]

He does not need it period for 1300's.

There is something far wrong with his issue in post #8

A single 4850 would be nice at that res tbh.

 

[uv]

What I cannot determine is the slowdown due to badly coded games or does the 8800GTX lack something

You state your card can do CoD4, Bioshock and Crysis with AA.. I'd say the console ports are badly ported

Nvidia as they are known to cripple older cards to force an upgrade

someone's been reading too much Inquirer

 

[AWPC]

Something is wrong, I game all games (apart from obv one) at 1920x1440 and get high FPS with Full AA+AF.

I do not need/use V-Sync as never ever seen Tearing on any of my CRT's (High end 19" and then 22" from 2001 till today).

I dont think that would matter as it would still give you a Min Ceiling of 60FPS if your LCD is 60hz.

I found why I got like 10-20FPs in Sega Rally Revo, I always forces Super AA in the Nvidia CP but it CONFLICTS with the Games Multisampling AA in the Games Menu, after fixin that it was 60-80FPS.

Have you got MS or SS AA Forced in the NV CP ?.

I game on a 40" HDTV @ 1360x768 the TFT I only use for web surfing & RTS's on another PC.

When you game on a 40" screen vsync is a must have as is max AA + AF otherwise to my eyes anyway you can see a lot of visual defects which is why to me the 8800GTX cannot handle some games as even though 1360 is a low res when you enable max AA + AF + vsync it puts a lot of strain on the GPU as clearly it cannot handle this without some form of slowdown which varies game to game scene to scene but some well coded games like Bioshock or COD4 do not suffer this. Once you start gaming on a massive screen there is no going back to something smaller as the scale gives you a big gain in the overall gaming experience.

 

[helmutcheese]

I have gamed on a Full HD46" 1080p (yes at 1920x1080/60p) but it was last gen and 7900GTX was like 10-15FPS in Trackmania Sunrise with all settings MAX's but it is a pretty game.

Regardless of screen size that RES is far too low for me and I still don't see what's causing you to get a lack of performance from your card.

Least now in 3 posts we have found out you do have a bigger LCD Monitor and do now play on a HD Ready LCD TV.

I cant help sorry but you should be able to do what you are doing on a 8800GT or a 8800GTS 512 at most.

 

[AWPC]

Decided to do the following instead of wasting a lot of money on a high end card:

1: Replace my 975X mobo with a high end DFI X48 Lanparty. For 2 reasons, first because its PCIE2.0 vs the 975X's 1.0a (probably not going to make much difference but I suspect 1.0a may slightly bottleneck an 8800GTX) and second because I can tweak the DFI to extract the maximum performance out of my X6800 + 8800GTX and give both a longer lifespan before X58 comes out.

2: Replace my 7800GTX512 with a 4850 as its only on a casual gaming rig but it does have a QX6850 so should be a bit of a boost as the 7800 obviously struggles badly nowadays. If I like the 4850 then I can always add another cheaply and even if it does not work out not much money to be lost as the 4850 would be easy to sell.

7800 cost me £587 back in Jan 06 and now worthless

 

[J.D]

Nice one. Should let things run "The way it's meant to be played" (well on 1 rig at least).

From what I've seen reviewed so far I'd be sticking the 4850 in the main rig and the 8800GTX in the machine with the 7800GTX in it. Although I would be sticking the 8800GTX in the gaming rig first to see how much of a performance gain you have received from your old motherboard. After all that then I'd stick the 4850 in.

I love my 8800GTX but if I had 2 machines running and the choice between GTX or 4850 for the gaming machine then I'd go with the 4850. That's my opinion though .

 

[AWPC]

Found out that the 975X is bottlenecking an 8800GTX + X6800 did some 3d mark benchmarking tonight and losing around 25-30% over similar rigs so looks like the 975X is not a great mobo!

Getting a high end DFI X48 tomorrow so will see how much difference that makes.

 

[RaiderX]

vsync will slow down a lot of games that cant stick to over 60fps, as soon as it goes slightly below it will pull the fps down in halfs, 30fps, 15fps ect.