Here it is the new BMW M2

Eliot · 16 Oct 2015 at 11:37

This is just so epic I really, REALLY want one.
Its a E46 with warranty and SPEEEEEEDDDD in my eyes.

With regards to the weird point about power comparisons between m235i and the M2.

A) you don't get the point in an M car as much as you think you do.
B)The Baby "mX35i" range is new and there has never been a BMW at that performance point until very recently.

You could argue the E92 335i created that sub real "M" performance level really.

SS-89 · 16 Oct 2015 at 11:56

Eliot said:
This is just so epic I really, REALLY want one.
Its a E46 with warranty and SPEEEEEEDDDD in my eyes.

With regards to the weird point about power comparisons between m235i and the M2.

A) you don't get the point in an M car as much as you think you do.
B)The Baby "mX35i" range is new and there has never been a BMW at that performance point until very recently.

You could argue the E92 335i created that sub real "M" performance level really.

Agreed on point A which is what I was getting at but point B isn't entirely true, all they've effectively done is for the new generations top petrol model is rename the 135/235 M sport to the M135i.

The 135i M Sport Coupe was first released back in 2007 so 8 years ago.

pioneer2000 · 16 Oct 2015 at 13:21

SS-89 said:
extremely tail happy due to peak torque between 1850-5500rpm.

For the road, I fail to see how this is a good thing!

SS-89 · 16 Oct 2015 at 13:55

pioneer2000 said:
For the road, I fail to see how this is a good thing!

Drive to the conditions it's fine. In the dry, plant your foot and MDM allows a touch of slip but then hooks up the rear wheels. Tail happy is probably a slight exaggeration (unless you have TC off in which case it isn't) but it does like to wiggle it's rear end. If you modulate the throttle properly it completely negates this.

NVP · 16 Oct 2015 at 14:04

Bloody turbos

Eliot · 16 Oct 2015 at 14:55

SS-89 said:
Agreed on point A which is what I was getting at but point B isn't entirely true, all they've effectively done is for the new generations top petrol model is rename the 135/235 M sport to the M135i.

The 135i M Sport Coupe was first released back in 2007 so 8 years ago.

I still kind of disagree though because they only brought in thinks like 4 pot brakes and better suspension with the baby M's

[TW]Fox · 16 Oct 2015 at 15:04

Eliot said:
I still kind of disagree though because they only brought in thinks like 4 pot brakes and better suspension with the baby M's

Not true, the 2007 135i had 4 pot brakes.

panthro · 16 Oct 2015 at 15:06

[TW]Fox;28691241 said:
Not true, the 2007 135i had 4 pot brakes.

Yep. The 135i brakes were very effective. Shame BMW couldn't manage 4 pot brakes on any of their M cars at that time.

SS-89 · 16 Oct 2015 at 15:28

panthro said:
Yep. The 135i brakes were very effective. Shame BMW couldn't manage 4 pot brakes on any of their M cars at that time.

Indeed

ChrisD. · 16 Oct 2015 at 15:43

Went to talk to the dealer about the M2, ended up driving the M4. What a machine.

SS-89 · 16 Oct 2015 at 15:50

S2KIP said:
Went to talk to the dealer about the M2, ended up driving the M4. What a machine.

P.B · 16 Oct 2015 at 16:33

Whats the retail on these going to be like ?

Born_2_Kill_83 · 16 Oct 2015 at 16:44

Havana_UK · 16 Oct 2015 at 17:02

P.B said:
Whats the retail on these going to be like ?

£44k basic OTR, then start ticking boxes (though to be fair, it's well spec'd straight out of the box). I looked at adding DCT, heated seats, HK audio & folding/dimming mirrors, and that brought it to £48k.

I'd be amazed if there's any discount available for a long time.

Cosimo · 16 Oct 2015 at 17:10

More noise...

[TW]Fox · 16 Oct 2015 at 17:30

S2KIP said:
Went to talk to the dealer about the M2, ended up driving the M4. What a machine.

Which did you order? Seems like quite a change for you?

ChrisD. · 16 Oct 2015 at 19:59

[TW]Fox;28692004 said:
Which did you order? Seems like quite a change for you?

Neither. The M4 is nice, just missing a bit of character for me to justify its price.

Cosimo · 18 Oct 2015 at 12:01

On the track:

OracIe · 18 Oct 2015 at 14:49

In a few years time I think ill either be considering a new M2 or a used GTR

Sam · 18 Oct 2015 at 15:48

I think this car looks fantastic and with the limited numbers supposedly coming to the UK it could be a pretty sensible purchase. Look at the kind of money the 1M coupes go for at the moment ...

My M135i is due to go back in April and i'm going to give this some serious thought .. i think i would take it manual too