Hitting a woman

[Spud21]

i'd retalliate, if a woman punched me in the face i'd belt the cow in the arm, if someone is going to hit me then they are going to get it back, don't care who they are. If they feel that they can punch me then i'm sorry but the gloves are off. I would give a woman one hell of a lot more leeway to bugger off than a bloke though, if a woman smacks me for no appreant reason, then i will try to get them to sod off without causing too much damage, give her a dead arm and see if she wants to walk away, if not then she'll get another one, and if she's stupid enough to carry on the she will aquire a dead leg as well.

If it was a bloke i'd do what was necessary to win, if someone is going to attack me then i reserve the right to apply the 3 pounds of force required to tear the ******* ear off.

 

[MrWhippy]

give her a dead arm

class, that'll learn her

 

[-Laser-]

you're not supposed to hit a lady, not every woman is a lady neccesarily. I would in some situations (nearly did a while back to stop a girl from trying to strangle my sister. i just dragged her off in the end, but if necessary i would have hit her as hard as i could. same would apply if anyone threatened my GF, i'm not gonna stand by and watch. i would also defend myself if necessary, but only if the protagonist was capable of hitting moderately hard.

 

[HangTime]

I'm almost as likely to hit a woman as I am a man. The only thing which might make me think twice would be the fear of retribution.... you know, other blokes machismo making them pile in to save the damsel in distress because I've hit a woman.

That said I have never hit a woman yet. Basically it takes a LOT for me to resort to hitting someone, and the situations I am likely to do so are quite severe. I don't remember hitting anyone in the last 10 years but if a woman started assaulting me I wouldn't let her gender stop me from defending myself.

 

[Sequoia]

I wouldnt hit a woman unless I or mine were in serious danger of injury or death.

Those who say women should be treated the same as men...I dont agree with..

Women are weaker.

That last bit is what's wrong with the "don't hit a woman" argument, because it is a generalisation and simply not always true. For fit and healthy men and women of roughly the same age and health, it's probably generally the case though by how much will vary enormously. For instance, a weedy bloke of 5'3" with a desk-bound job matched up to a 5'11" woman that works on a building site (and some do) may well find himself heavily outmatched.

Similarly, a man of 75 in average condition may well find himself outmatched by an average woman of 25.

But in any event, personally, I'm a firm believer in equality and that means I treat people equally. Any woman that thinks she can slap me and get away with it is likely to get a surprise when I slap her back, and any woman that uses a serious punch is, if I can, going to get treated as I would treat a man that did that .... in other words, decked if I can manage it.

 

[theleg]

That last bit is what's wrong with the "don't hit a woman" argument, because it is a generalisation and simply not always true. For fit and healthy men and women of roughly the same age and health, it's probably generally the case though by how much will vary enormously. For instance, a weedy bloke of 5'3" with a desk-bound job matched up to a 5'11" woman that works on a building site (and some do) may well find himself heavily outmatched.

Similarly, a man of 75 in average condition may well find himself outmatched by an average woman of 25.

But in any event, personally, I'm a firm believer in equality and that means I treat people equally. Any woman that thinks she can slap me and get away with it is likely to get a surprise when I slap her back, and any woman that uses a serious punch is, if I can, going to get treated as I would treat a man that did that .... in other words, decked if I can manage it.

Yeah well...obviously there will be exceptions..but a 15 stone man will be MUCH stronger than a 15 stone woman in 99% of cases..thats the point.

Ok so be it...Disclaimer...My comments only apply to 99% of the population.

 

[fatiain]

Yeah well...obviously there will be exceptions..but a 15 stone man will be MUCH stronger than a 15 stone woman in 99% of cases..thats the point.

Ok so be it...Disclaimer...My comments only apply to 99% of the population.

Hmm, not entirely convinced by your arguement. I had to remove a working girl from a bar once as her custom was no longer required. She was 5ft6, slim to the point of skinny and a known junkie. It took 3 of us to get her out (all 6ft+ and 16st+). When she kicked off outside, it took the 3 of us and 2 OB to restrain her enough to get her in handcuffs. And even then it took 3 coppers to get her in the back of the van.

 

[Sequoia]

Hmm, not entirely convinced by your arguement. I had to remove a working girl from a bar once as her custom was no longer required. She was 5ft6, slim to the point of skinny and a known junkie. It took 3 of us to get her out (all 6ft+ and 16st+). When she kicked off outside, it took the 3 of us and 2 OB to restrain her enough to get her in handcuffs. And even then it took 3 coppers to get her in the back of the van.

I rest my case.

 

[Admiral Huddy]

I wouldn't hit a woman in any circumstances.. nor my kids.. in fact wouldn't hit anyone tbh. If i've got to the stage that i feel like hitting out then i've lost the plot so it isn't worth it imo..

Yet it's acceptable in society to smack our kids

 

[Sequoia]

I wouldn't hit a woman in any circumstances.. nor my kids.. in fact wouldn't hit anyone tbh. If i've got to the stage that i feel like hitting out then i've lost the plot so it isn't worth it imo..

What about self-defence .... or the defence of your kids?

 

[NokkonWud]

In what circumstances is it acceptable to hit a woman?

In the same circumstances it's acceptable for a woman to hit a man.

 

[theleg]

Hmm, not entirely convinced by your arguement. I had to remove a working girl from a bar once as her custom was no longer required. She was 5ft6, slim to the point of skinny and a known junkie. It took 3 of us to get her out (all 6ft+ and 16st+). When she kicked off outside, it took the 3 of us and 2 OB to restrain her enough to get her in handcuffs. And even then it took 3 coppers to get her in the back of the van.

You were trying to restrain her...If one of you just smacked her in the face she woulda gone down like a sack of the proverbial.

Thats the point.

 

[pugster]

the ppl who say that women are of inferior strength /cant punch etc have obviously never seen a 5'3 9 stone woman glass a man ,ive seen a few women glass men /other women ,and even take a stilletto shoe off and swing it at someone ( the bloke almost lost an eye) , any woman comes at me or mine intent on doing damage will get the same in return whether it be a slap for throwing a punch at me that did not hurt or picking a glass up intending to put it in my face and getting a broken jaw for trying.

 

[Sequoia]

You were trying to restrain her...If one of you just smacked her in the face she woulda gone down like a sack of the proverbial.

Thats the point.

Yes, it is indeed the point. It took three coppers to get her in the van, and three large blokes to get her out of the bar. So, if you don't happen to have two large mates or three coppers with you, you aren't going to find it easy to 'just restrain' a woman like that, are you? So, when she feels she can attack you, and you can't restrain her, you have a choice of popping her one or standing there and taking the damage. You take the damage if you want, but if she's able to hand it out, she must expect to risk receiving it, and from me, receive it she would. Nobody has the right to assault someone else, regardless of gender, and we all have the right to use force in self defence. That is exactly what I would do, regardless of gender.

 

[Innesita]

no one deserves to experience violence...if i was a man i don't think that i would hit a woman if it happened for the first time.if she abused that i would break up with her, wouldn't like to see her again and would be prayin for another guy to do something about that.anyway i think that violence creates violence so it is pointless to react in same way, typical chain reaction to me...

 

[Sequoia]

the ppl who say that women are of inferior strength /cant punch etc have obviously never seen a 5'3 9 stone woman glass a man ,ive seen a few women glass men /other women ,and even take a stilletto shoe off and swing it at someone ( the bloke almost lost an eye) , any woman comes at me or mine intent on doing damage will get the same in return whether it be a slap for throwing a punch at me that did not hurt or picking a glass up intending to put it in my face and getting a broken jaw for trying.

Oh, I think on average women probably are weaker. But by how much? 1%? 5%? 10%? 20%?

Even if a woman is 20% weaker, it doesn't mean she can't do serious damage. But I agree with you. I think any man assuming he is sufficiently stronger that he can just restrain any woman attacking him is seriously underestimating many women.

Also, the ability to hurt is as much about knowing what you are doing as it is about sheer strength. A small well-trained man can easily hurt a much larger untrained one. Why should we assume women don't know what they are doing? After all, an increasing number have taken self-defence classes, let alone martial arts ones.

Clearly, there's a qualitative difference between a woman "slapping" a man (which in my case would earn a slap back), and one launching a serious attack (such as a drunken or drugged up woman having a real go). My response to the slap and to the drugged nutter having a go would evidently be different, but I'm NOT going to assumed that the drugged type can't seriously hurt me just because she's a woman.

Similarly, a drunken attack can either be a wild punch by someone so far gone they can barely see you, or it can be a seriously meant attack by someone drunk enough to be very belligerent but sober enough to be dangerous. Again, you react according to situation.

But, if a woman seriously attacks me, whether drunk/drugged or not, I'll react just as I would with a man and if that means doing my level best to knock her head off, so be it.

 

[theleg]

Yes, it is indeed the point. It took three coppers to get her in the van, and three large blokes to get her out of the bar. So, if you don't happen to have two large mates or three coppers with you, you aren't going to find it easy to 'just restrain' a woman like that, are you? So, when she feels she can attack you, and you can't restrain her, you have a choice of popping her one or standing there and taking the damage. You take the damage if you want, but if she's able to hand it out, she must expect to risk receiving it, and from me, receive it she would. Nobody has the right to assault someone else, regardless of gender, and we all have the right to use force in self defence. That is exactly what I would do, regardless of gender.

I have never mentioned restraint :dunno:

I didnt bring up strength in regards to restraint, i brought it up in regards to the damage a woman can do.

If I get attacked by a woman...punching me and the like, id leave..

 

[fatiain]

I have never mentioned restraint :dunno:

I didnt bring up strength in regards to restraint, i brought it up in regards to the damage a woman can do.

If I get attacked by a woman...punching me and the like, id leave..

The state she was in, she wouldn't have left it or let you leave, I don't think a punch in the face would have calmed her down either.

She took a chunk out of one of the coppers hands, when she was face down, with 5 of us on top of her.

 

[theleg]

The state she was in, she wouldn't have left it or let you leave, I don't think a punch in the face would have calmed her down either.

She took a chunk out of one of the coppers hands, when she was face down, with 5 of us on top of her.

All im saying with regard to that incident is that you could have floored her if you werent trying to restrain her in the presence of the police...Who have to restrain people.

 

[Sequoia]

I have never mentioned restraint :dunno:

You were trying to restrain her...If one of you just smacked her in the face she woulda gone down like a sack of the proverbial.

Thats the point.

Looks like mentioning it to me.

I didnt bring up strength in regards to restraint, i brought it up in regards to the damage a woman can do.

If I get attacked by a woman...punching me and the like, id leave..

Then we fundamentally disagree with how much damage a woman can do. My wife is a surgeon and spent some time, prior to specialising, dealing with casualties from the ER, including that done by women in fights. Ask her how much damage a woman can do.

And walking away isn't always an option, or at least, not one that doesn't carry serious risk of further injury. I'm not saying you're wrong to react how you say you would, Balddog. If that's how you feel and how you'd react, you're entitled to feel and react so. But my feeling is rather different. If someone, woman or not, is prepared to use violence they should be prepared to receive it. A woman clobbering a bloke and then complaining if she gets clobbered back is a coward, and hiding behind her sex. If she expects to be treated like a lady, she should act like one.