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HMRC Call...

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by Hamzter, 3 Jun 2010.

  1. Hamzter

    Wise Guy

    Joined: 19 Mar 2003

    Posts: 1,366

    I had a call from HM Revenue and Customs today, to inform me that they'd given me a £100 fine for failing to fill in a self assessment form, and if I didn't pay by the end of tomorrow they'd throw additional fines etc at me. This was a bit of a shock as they'd not said a thing till today, no letters to say I need to fill in a self assessment, no warnings, reminders or any other correspondance. I was self employed for a couple of months 3 years ago which I filled in a SA for, and I've been on a normal PAYE job for 2 years now, and according to the HMRC website I shouldn't need to fill one in.

    They advised (or rather ordered) me to pay the fine and raise a dispute, any idea whether I'll be able to sucessfully claim it back?
  2. J.B


    Joined: 16 Aug 2006

    Posts: 5,922

    Could be scam, have you tried calling HMRC and double checking?
  3. dl763


    Joined: 28 Jul 2008

    Posts: 469

    I'm sure you would have had a letter about this before a threatening phone call.
  4. Greenlizard0

    Man of Honour

    Joined: 15 Mar 2004

    Posts: 28,189

    Location: Liverpool

    Did you pay the fine over the phone?
  5. Azza


    Joined: 6 Dec 2005

    Posts: 35,656

    Location: Birmingham

    Ring them up to be sure it's legit...
  6. andicole0


    Joined: 12 Sep 2005

    Posts: 6,348

    Location: Robertsbridge

    Almost certainly scam, HMRC only contact you by post, check here.

  7. Felix Da Housecat


    Joined: 4 Aug 2004

    Posts: 2,677

    Location: In a wheelie bin

    Contact the hmrc directly and find out. The chances are its a scam.
  8. Azza


    Joined: 6 Dec 2005

    Posts: 35,656

    Location: Birmingham

    *waits for*

    "Yeah I paid it over the phone with my debit card."

  9. Robbo

    Capo Crimine

    Joined: 2 Jan 2009

    Posts: 55,022

    .... and I dont remember ordering a first class trip to Nigeria either :(
  10. Beans on toast Dave


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    Location: Telford

  11. Hamzter

    Wise Guy

    Joined: 19 Mar 2003

    Posts: 1,366

    Hehe, don't worry I'm not stupid enough to pay a random person over the phone! He asked me for debit card details which set off a few alarm bells, but he had a worrying ammount of information about me if it was a scam though (knew my mobile number, home address where my tax is registered and unique tax reference :confused:). The number was 0845 302 1427, couldn't confirm whether it was a scam or legit from google. I'll give HMRC a call and check if they really have fined me...
  12. Cosimo

    Man of Honour

    Joined: 9 Jan 2007

    Posts: 163,805

    Location: Londinium

    HMRC Lagos calling.
  13. MrMoonX


    Joined: 31 Dec 2007

    Posts: 10,035

    i think we should nuke lagos, would get rid of all the lazy scammers!
  14. SiriusB


    Joined: 16 Dec 2005

    Posts: 14,448

    Location: Manchester

    One misplaced pay slip or other piece of paper would be enough to get all that info surely?

    Although it wouldn't surprise me if HMRC misplaced a USB drive! :p
  15. Azza


    Joined: 6 Dec 2005

    Posts: 35,656

    Location: Birmingham


    Massive thread about the number here.

    Ring up HMRC though to report that you have been contacted and just make sure everything is ok. :)
  16. Hamzter

    Wise Guy

    Joined: 19 Mar 2003

    Posts: 1,366

    Can't think of any documents that would have my mobile number along with my UTR, you might be right on the USB drive though :p
  17. markweatherill


    Joined: 16 Jun 2009

    Posts: 2,567

    Location: Bucks

    If they think money is owed them, they most certainly do phone!

    0845 302 1427 does appear to be a genuine HMRC number.

    Probably their latest computer system has started generating random penalties on people. I wouldn't be surprised!
  18. box

    Wise Guy

    Joined: 20 Nov 2005

    Posts: 1,229

    Location: Bristol

  19. Pudney


    Joined: 6 Sep 2005

    Posts: 5,591

    Location: Essex

    Their computer systems are currently going mental issuing penalties and distraint proceedings to all and sundry, even taxpayers with pay arrangements with them. Problem with automatic systems! :D
  20. Greebo


    Joined: 20 Jan 2005

    Posts: 39,834

    Location: Co Durham

    HMRC do contact you by phone, they have several times at work. Once they even asked me if I wanted to pay £134k via debit card (is that even possible?) :confused:

    This year HMRC have tightened up on all fines and introduced new ones. The country is short of money after all.

    You used to get some leaway but not anymore. £100 fines here and there for everything plus a certain percentage of everything you owe and haven't paid which increases every time you are late paying.