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how do freelance web developers work with limited graphical abilities?

Discussion in 'HTML, Graphics & Programming' started by Apex, 11 Apr 2010.

  1. Apex

    Capodecina

    Joined: 12 Feb 2006

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    i often find myself very limited when building sites as i am not a very creative person with graphics which quickly becomes annoying as i can have some big ideas, just unable to put them into action.

    i was wondering if anyone on here has/had this problem, and how to deal with it? do people outsource that to another company? work in partnership with a graphic designer etc?
     
  2. BFCTom

    Capodecina

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    Location: Barnsley

    I'd try and find someone to work alongside who can do the graphical work.

    IE, your "partner" mocks up a web design in photoshop, then you XHTML/CSS/CMS it.

    I used to only be able to design, but through experience and a bit of hard work I learned to develop also.

    I'm not sure this is as easy the other way round as a lot of people think you can't "learn" design - you either have it or you don't.
     
  3. meghatronic

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    I agree on all points.

    Find someone on WHT?
     
  4. Apex

    Capodecina

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    WHT?
     
  5. logix42p

    Mobster

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    webhosting talk prehaps?
     
  6. Randomface74

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    I used to do a bit of freelancing while I was at uni. I used to take photos and then crop bits out them to make designs. Take a photo, Photoshop it loads so it doesn't really look like a photo anymore, then make a site out of it.
     
  7. Draeger

    Capodecina

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    Having access to the right software, progs and apps helps hugely. :cool:
     
  8. meghatronic

    Capodecina

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    Yes. Sorry.
     
  9. stoke1863

    Mobster

    Joined: 13 Jun 2009

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    Location: Chesterfield

    Either learn or find someone who is a designer to work with.


    A bloke at work is a great programmer but has the artistic flair of a donkey. So he sometimes asks me to help
     
  10. topbanana

    Hitman

    Joined: 15 Jun 2005

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    I normally try to design the pages using a sensible XHTML structure that will allow the designer to hook his or her CSS into it. I often have to tweak things at their request, but it gets you 80% of the way there. I don't bother designing any layout at all, it just looks like a flat file until the designer gets involved.
     
  11. PaulM

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    If you don't have the time to learn/practice I'd definitely try to find a designer partner to work with you.

    I strongly disagree with the notion that "design can't be learned" I've worked in web design and game design and met several people who used to be "bad" at design, and get told by snobby designers that design "can't be learned" yet now after practice they're great designers/artists.
     
  12. [email protected]

    Hitman

    Joined: 16 Jan 2010

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    Best thing to do in my experience is get involved with a design company that does not have their own website builder. Most of my work is building sites from their designs.

    It also helps develop you own design skills too. With practice and some knowledge of the Adobe products you can soon get quite good.