HP Reverb G2 uk release date?

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aoaaron said:
How do you return to Amazon Spain? Still covered warranty Amazon?
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Yes. It's all the same company, only thing I'm not sure of is postage charges after Brexit, but equally should be able to get manufacturers support too.

EU Consumer Rights Directive still applies according to which
 
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It's the headset only that is cheaper, with controllers it's the same price on Amazon Spain when I just looked.
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Yes they have now put the price up, when I ordered it was 599 full kit (£540 - actually they didn't take payment yet so looking at exchange rate its now going to be about £550)

its still listed up as 1st October release date and my order says it should be with my 5-7th

699 still works out marginally cheaper, depending on what exchange rate your card provider stings you with
 
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andybird123 said:
Yes they have now put the price up, when I ordered it was 599 full kit (£540 - actually they didn't take payment yet so looking at exchange rate its now going to be about £550)

its still listed up as 1st October release date and my order says it should be with my 5-7th

699 still works out marginally cheaper, depending on what exchange rate your card provider stings you with
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Will be really interested to see how this goes!

Systemactive already have my money (at the cheaper rate), so I won't be moving my order, but if Amazon Spain manage to ship to their proposed dates, I'll be loudly 'tutting' at Systemactive.
 

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I'll be loudly 'tutting' at Systemactive.
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I doubt this will be the case, but if it were to turn out that way I think any ire directed at system active would be misdirected. They aren’t going to sit on them for funsies, they are waiting for HP to actually send them their allocated headsets like everyone else. If Amazon.es gets them before system active that’s purely due to HP sending them there first.
 

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thanks. I'm wondering if I could confirm this with Amazon
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Yes. It's all the same company, only thing I'm not sure of is postage charges after Brexit, but equally should be able to get manufacturers support too.

EU Consumer Rights Directive still applies according to which
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andybird123 said:
Yes. It's all the same company, only thing I'm not sure of is postage charges after Brexit, but equally should be able to get manufacturers support too.

EU Consumer Rights Directive still applies according to which
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Checked with them. Any issues will have to liase and talk to Amazon Spain... in spanish lol.
 

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Update from HP, tl;dr: Shipping early November for pre-orders, will also require AC power to be used.

Hi folks,

Happy 3rd day of Fall!

Firstly a quick note on why we have been quiet on giving an official release date outside of “Fall 2020”. Our priority is delivering the best immersive experience, a high-quality product, and giving you information that can be trusted. As we go through development ship dates can shift by a few days and sometimes weeks, and nothing is more frustrating than being told the wrong date! We have been focusing on testing and verifying the quality of the devices, and I am happy that today we have reached the point where we feel confident in our ship date. Devices will begin shipping to preorder resellers the second half of October, and we expect units to begin reaching your hands the beginning of November.

One reason there has been such a long period between previews and product ship, is that those units were very early prototypes. Normally we would never send out such early prototypes, the goal with this choice was to get feedback from you and press on what we should change. As such, here are some of the changes that came directly from your feedback:

· Updated lenses

o Contrary to the rumors on here of us cheapening the lenses, we have not found a way to make the lenses cheaper, we all wish we had of course!

o To pull back the curtain a bit, we start out with a theoretical goal for how the lenses should perform, and then we work on getting mass production methods to match that theoretical goal. No one public saw the first version of the lenses as they were terrible, the second version held major improvements and we felt were good enough to show press in order to give you confidence to preorder.

o We then had to make a decision, spend time and money to go after a third revision of the lenses or ship what was already getting great feedback. We love VR and our first priority is giving you the best immersive experience, so of course we chose to spend the time and money (yes, this new revision of lenses cost us money). Boy are we glad we did! Big reduction in Fresnel ring reflections and improved clarity.

· Controllers

o Feedback was mostly positive with one big issue, no one could tell the menu and windows button apart by feel. The menu button is now domed so that you can tell by feel. It makes for a great button to use for changing weapons in Half Life Alyx.

· USB-C to A adapter

o After we did wide distributions of test units internally, the biggest out of box blocker was our cable terminating in type-c.

o Too many people were forced to purchase type-A to type-C adapters, a customer shouldn’t have to buy an adapter to make their new device work.

o In addition to the full size to mini DisplayPort adapter we are also including a type-a to type-c adapter in box. This costs us money, but it is the right choice.

· Brightness

o Some of the loudest feedback has been about brightness. Key to this discussion is the topic of backlight persistence, which is a measure of what % of each frame the backlight is turned on for. The brightness for a set pair of optics comes down to how long your backlight persistence is, and how bright you can drive your panel during that time.

o Additionally the lower your persistence, the less display smear you get when you move your head.

o The choice came down to longer persistence and a brighter image, or lower persistence and a dimmer image. We did not like this choice and went back to the drawing board to improve how bright we can drive the backlight.

o The tradeoff is increased power draw; the device can no longer draw enough power over USB-C alone. Reverb G2 will require the included power adapter to be plugged in to the wall to function, and in return you get the best visual experience we can deliver.

· Non-motherboard USB

o This will not be a surprise to VR veterans, we have found a significant number of USB ports that aren’t direct from the CPU/motherboard to cause USB issues on VR headsets. Think PCI add in cards or USB ports on graphics cards. Whatever VR headset you use, we highly suggest using the ports on your motherboard that come from the CPU USB controller.

I want to thank all of our partners, testers, customers, and press for their outspoken feedback during Reverb G2’s public development. We run a lean operation and this feedback provides invaluable ammo for us to correctly allocate our resources and time on improving the product.

If I had to give a personal favorite feature of Reverb G2 that I am excited for you all to try, I would have to highlight comfort. With previous devices I wanted them off my face after about two hours, my eyes and face would be tired. With Reverb G2 I knock out 4 hour sessions and come out feeling fresh! The Valve designed optics, mechanical IPD, new headband and face gasket truly spoil when it comes to comfort.

And we will stick around for an hour or so answering questions.
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https://www.reddit.com/r/HPReverb/comments/iz3jj9/amaship_date/
 
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Zeeflyboy said:
Interesting to read and sounds good to me!

Shame it’s a little later than expected but I personally feel it to be a worthwhile trade off for getting the improved lenses and the brightness up for more punch.
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I was expecting mid to late October, so early November isn't the end of the world for sure. It'll be work the wait I have no doubt. And yes for sure, I have no issues giving it some power too, it's a small price to pay for what's hopefully going to be a pretty awesome VR experience.
 

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Not an issue for me at all either, unsurprisingly I have plug sockets next to my gaming PC :D

Surprised they don’t have it operate in two modes though - external power connected = give it the beans, no external power = dial it back to where it was before. They said on that Reddit thread they will be monitoring feedback in regards to giving brightness controls to the user so perhaps they will in future.

Their level of confidence in their 3rd lens iteration has me excited given how favourably the 2nd iteration wars received.
 

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Yes it's possible they may give that option. It seems they are certainly trying their best to do the right thing and make the product that the people want.

I am very excited to try MSFS in VR now.
 

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"from the headset a cable travels 5 meters to a little box. that box has two 1 meter cables that come out of it (displayport and USB). that little box also has power input, you will use a 45W notebook charger that comes in the box, plug that into the wall and the barrel end into the little box."

That answers my question as to how that extra power needed would work.
 
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