Hysteria in the local news.

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Von Luck said:
.......What possible 'danger' can such a place present?

Altered expectations. The women who dance in these clubs are (physically speaking) the cream of the crop. How does a bloke feel when he than has to go home and look at his wife who is ten years older and has perhaps had a couple of his kids. It is degrading something that is meant to be private and intimate.

I can fully understand why others might feel that my views belong to a past time and are outdated but I can assure you that they are carefully considered and have been developed partly as a result of seeing a number of friends whose marriages have failed.

Von Luck said:
I don't think the two topics are remotely similar. Sexual freedom applies to adults who are able to make informed choices. A child of 10 or 11 is just that, a child. She does not have the experience or maturity to make decisions of a sexual nature (and indeed the majority of children her age will not have even hit puberty).

They are closely linked. The belief of the parents is clearly that sex is about freedom of choice and 'if you want it then do it'. They have fallen down with failing to apply any common sense in terms of sexual maturity and responsibility, but it stems from the same source.

All societies have standards of decency in terms of sexual conduct. I am simply saying that I believe the standards should be higher than they currently are and I believe that will be for the good of all people.
 
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If your stupid enough to go in then thats your choice, it's a business after all, people are just trying to make a living.

But seeing some random girl pretend she is turned on and put a bit of an act on for me....I would just feel like a total saddo.

If that really excites you, then fair enough but I'd much rather go home and get some propper action.
 
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Von Luck said:
I agree 100% that it's silly - but that doesn't mean it's not fun. :)

All men KNOW that the women in these clubs don't fancy them and are just in it for the money - but the point is, WE DON'T CARE! We appreciate the effort they goto to make it appear that they DO fancy us and pay them accordingly.

The last thing I'd want is for my wife to act like a stripper.

Fair enough mate .. different strokes for different folks :)

I just can't understand it and given the choice of paying £20 to having some boobies bounce about in front of me or watching some FREE hardcode porn with foof action I'd chose the porn ! ;)
 
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Von Luck said:
Good point, well made - but then you get something similar (obviously to a lesser extent) every day. You see beautiful, young, vibrant people walking around every day - it's down to the individual to realise that a lasting relationship is based on more than youthful looks.

I agree, and I do not advocate going to the extremes of the Muslim burkah to prevent sexual temptation, but there is a difference between an attractive woman walking past you in the stree and an attractive woman dancing naked in front of you. The onus lies upon the person viewing to keep their minds on the right track and that is hard if the goods are bing waved in front of you.

A lasting relationship is certainly based on a lot more than youthful looks.

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I just can't understand it and given the choice of paying £20 to having some boobies bounce about in front of me or watching some FREE hardcode porn with foof action I'd chose the porn !

You are right of course, but what if a guy's wife is not comfortable with dancing in this way? Some people have been damaged by overly opressive teaching in terms of sex and acting in that way may feel dirty to them (I am not saying that it is dirty).

It comes back to expectations again. If a guy spends time thinking about things that are on offer in a strip bar or on the internet then he will bring that into the bedroom when he is with his wife and that can cause damage to their sexual relastionship.
 
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goldilocks said:
eurgh - this is the sort of thing that will probably sound like complete BS, and all i can do is assure you that it happened.... (well, as much as i can)

a local council meeting in *insert town here* sometime last year (a colleague's husband is a member) - the topic comes on to a the proposed development of a 'pole dancing club' in the town.
outrage, of course...
except one elderly councellor who come out with the blinder -
'we have a greek restaurant, and a indian restaurant, maybe the polish workers need somewhere to relax of an evening...'

fantastic... :D
 
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Mini update on this.

been down there another week and it made the front page of the local paper ("Poles Apart", lol!) and had one of the local columnists telling everybody how it was a big misunderstanding and that there were no lapdancing licences in Newquay and no licences were going to be issued. People were probably just getting it mixed up with the wet t-shirt contests during Run To The Sun .... umm, not aware the licence has been in place for nearly a year then love? I love local news.

Ho hum, had plenty of fun though :)

Old club had a canopy outside, which we were going to carefully remove, chop up and dispose of. Instead we drilled a few holes though it, got a bigass rope, hitched it over the towing hitch of my van and pulled it off the wall a lump at a time, Good god that was fun :D

And for those who think i'm having too much fun there, this should bring a smile ...

We've been pulling some of the old ceiling down. I've popped off to the "throne room" to answer the call of the wild. After a minute or so of "contemplation" i hear shrieks (from the big burly labourers on the job) and a shout of "it's going towards the bog!". I hear the door burst open and sets of feet come running in. "there it is, smack it in the head! now! kill it!", etc. I'm a bit agitated by this to say the least. Imagine my reaction when a sodding great big rat runs under the cubicle door and heads towards the (occupied!) pan! :eek: I think i developed something short of thrust at that moment and managed to bounce off the seat (ok, i shrieked too :p) The rat did an about turn,ran out under the door and from what i could hear managed to dodge the lot of them on it's way out of the club. Not a situation i'd care to repeat any time soon i can assure you!

Couple days at home and i'm back up there on monday (place is meant to be open in 11 days and we haven't even plastered the ceilings yet :eek: )
 
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Phantom said:
strip club - way to go to degrade human society and treat women as object whilst not forgetting to mention that it makes men look weak in that they have to pay to see such things.

Yeh and they have totally no say in the matter, they are FORCED to dance for people in exchange for cash.
 
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Piggymon said:
I just can't understand it and given the choice of paying £20 to having some boobies bounce about in front of me or watching some FREE hardcode porn with foof action I'd chose the porn ! ;)

For me the most fun is had when with a group of friends and you can all have a good laugh at the bloke with his eyes bugged out and a near naked bird on his lap rubbing her boobs on his face.

Porn doesn't normally have the same group enjoyment. :p

I've been to lapdancing clubs a number of times with friends and it's just something to do for a laugh, to be honest once you've seen one pair of boobs you've seen them all.

If you understand that the girls are simply there for the money it becomes harmless fun. I feel a bit sorry for blokes who go to those places regular though because they fancy the girls or can't get any action themselves.
 
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I had the misfortune to go in the wone near me recently. It used to be a decent non-commercial nightclub, but now it's your typical sleaze joint.

And what did I find? A lot of eastern European women dressed like slags pimping for money. Only one of them was actually attractive.

Ok, so they're making money from stupid blokes, but I'm a "not in my backyard" person.
 
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