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That's a little assumptive, isn't it?Arcade Fire said:
I Got Angry Yesterday
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Vanilla said:
In the context of the OP. Are you deaf as well as ignorant?
The context being that he called him 'dirty' and was clearly refering to his colour.
At the end of the day, anti-semitism and racism are both prejudice against someone different from yourself. They're practically one in the same.
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Yes, but I think it would be a fair assumption.basmic said:
Is the 'witticism' in your sig supposed to be a serious comment, by the way?
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Mr Spew said:
That leads to anarchy which in my book is not good.
I'm not saying that people shouldn't have a right to defend their rights, however taking matters into your own hands through violence makes you just as bad as them. You can do a lot more damage through court trial/oifficial procedures if you're that passionate about it. Hitting someone for saying a nasty word does no good. It might feel good, and bring some form of immediate justice (and don't get me wrong I may have felt tempted (in my mind) to do the same - I wouldn't as I'm not a violent person however) - but it's not the right way of going about it.
basmic said:
Im pretty sure that he doesnt care if you admire him or not.
I should have mentioned that before we did anything, we started shouting at them telling them that it was out of order, and we got back from them the usual "**** off you *****", etc.
I dont think violence was the answer either, but as I said before, he deserved it and I honestly dont regret my friend doing it. I wish I did report the guard to his superior though. Thats my biggest regret.
Arcade Fire said:
Indeed, but I was reminded of the bunch of hooligans up North who beat up a Paediatrician because they thought it meant Paedophile. I know this is drastically different but I could just imagine a lad somewhere saying 'I beat up a racist yesterday'.
Think of all the street cred he'd get if he said 'I beat up an Anti-Semite today'
All his mates would go 'corrr great.....auntie who?'
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If you have an issue with my signature then do one of the following, rather than derail threads: a) RTM any of my posts which contain it. b) Email a moderator. c) Email meArcade Fire said:
Whether the 'witticism' in my signature should remain or not, has already been argued. It does not need arguing about, once more.
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panthro said:
I don't think anyone here regrets it. I'm more shocked and disappointed at the guards being so "cool" about those people's behaviour. :/
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Oh that makes his actions perfectly sensible then.panthro said:
Vanilla said:
Why are you defending a point you're clearly wrong about? You're right in terms that it's not a race, but like it's been pointed out twice - racism and most forms of prejudice are one in the same.
Stick to the topic now, because defending the point makes you appear like you support anti-semitism.
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Fair enough. But by telling us they shouted at them, does it make them any worse or better?panthro said:
Nix said:
Pot, kettle black.
My only point is that it wasn't racist. You;ve conceded that this is in fact correct yet you keep trying to keep some face for some god forsaken reason by pointing out that it's all the same.
If it were all the same why would I have bothered posting?
Surely if i'#m educating people about what the difference between racism and anti-semitism is I can't be supporting it? How did you work that one out?
basmic said:
It helped, because at least the kid knew why he was getting hit before it happened. So he couldnt tell anyone he got hit for no reason at all. At least all the people round could know that he was making racist/anti-semitic comments to children before it happened.
Vanilla said:
We were discussing the behaviour of the said individuals not the specific wording used. You've inappropriately brought up the discussion which is for another time and place. It's in the context you mentioned it. I know you're not as you stated it earlier.
Vanilla said:
If you're going to have this dicussion now, then you're going to derail the thread. I'd love to discuss it with you, and forgive my half-bothered responses but i'm in the middle of revision. I'm gonna leave you to it now, as my exam is 2moro and I really have to get on with it.
Goodness grief, keyboards at dawn eh? 
I reckon it would be foolish to think that dealing out an elbow to the head of some yob is going to teach them a lesson... they are probably used to violence, and if anything it'll just increase fuel their racist behaviour, because that's the way those small-minded, pea-brained people work.
Yeah at the end of the day the scrote probably deserved a good kicking, but then again he's probably taken a good few over the years and lives in a culture of violence, so all your mate did by elbowing him in the head was act like a No swearing! himself, and all you showed him once more is that violence works, and he'll take it out some poor and unlucky sod at some point in the future. If you or your friend think you have educated the yob in any way, shape or form about the finer points of how to treat ethnic minorite,s or increased his goodwill towards fellow man then you are deluding yourself. The elbow is far deadlier than the fist in close quarters, many martial arts use it with devestating effect but only when they want to REALLY hurt someone. Your mate is obviously as much a yob as they are and likes a good scrap.
Just my opinion.
I reckon it would be foolish to think that dealing out an elbow to the head of some yob is going to teach them a lesson... they are probably used to violence, and if anything it'll just increase fuel their racist behaviour, because that's the way those small-minded, pea-brained people work.
Yeah at the end of the day the scrote probably deserved a good kicking, but then again he's probably taken a good few over the years and lives in a culture of violence, so all your mate did by elbowing him in the head was act like a No swearing! himself, and all you showed him once more is that violence works, and he'll take it out some poor and unlucky sod at some point in the future. If you or your friend think you have educated the yob in any way, shape or form about the finer points of how to treat ethnic minorite,s or increased his goodwill towards fellow man then you are deluding yourself. The elbow is far deadlier than the fist in close quarters, many martial arts use it with devestating effect but only when they want to REALLY hurt someone. Your mate is obviously as much a yob as they are and likes a good scrap.
Just my opinion.