I was planning to pick up a 20D until the 30D was announced... my initial plan was to pick up a 350D with a range of lenses but I didn't find the 350D too comfortable after comparing it with a 20D. I'm not rich so I need a good walkabout lense that accompanies the new camera whilst borrowing my uncle's range of Canon lenses until I can afford some new ones The camera will be used for interior and exterior shots of buildings (varying light levels for the interior, although I'll probably nick my uncle's flash), wildlife and scenery. There will also be quite a few photos of flowers. The package I've come across includes: Canon EOS-30D EF-S 17-85 f/4-5.6 IS USM Sandisk Extreme III 2GB The price is £1149, which is tempting and also the lowest I've seen anywhere although I could save almost half the cost for picking up a 350D. Is this a good price and would you recommend the 17-85 lense as a suitable walkabout lense as oppose to the original EF-S 18-55 f/3.5-5.6?