Islamaphobia Legislation (UK)

Mason- · 17 May 2019 at 13:23

StriderX said:
I still feel there’s a not small minority who look at brown people in their cultural dress and use Islam as a front loader for their bigotry.

I still feel there's a not small minority who look at genuine criticism of Islam and claim racism as a front loader for their bigotry.

Thecaferacer · 17 May 2019 at 13:34

Anyone who thinks this legal definition is a good thing should take the substitution test and see if their opinion still holds.

Anyone who is negative towards a Christian or any culture or value of christianess should be treated automatically as racist.

Anyone who is negative towards Scientologists or his hostile or critical towards any behaviours or customs of Scientologists should be treated automatically as racist.

Shocky-FM · 20 May 2019 at 19:11

It's only going to get worse, the media do their best to protect Islam and the perception of Muslims as a whole but it's not working, eventually things will turn very nasty, Brexit is just the start.

FoxEye · 20 May 2019 at 21:08

I can only assume that the people running today's media are the indoctrinated media grads who spent their formative years listening to left-wing lecturers and their propaganda.

[FnG]magnolia · 20 May 2019 at 23:08

FoxEye said:
I can only assume that the people running today's media are the indoctrinated media grads who spent their formative years listening to left-wing lecturers and their propaganda.

Is this a fresh take or are you not familiar with media bias?

Zatoichi.uK · 21 May 2019 at 06:21

Nothing to see in Oldham the other day. Move along please.

Fubsy · 23 May 2019 at 06:57

How would this legislation deal with the current ongoing LGBT awareness curriculum that is causing grief for all concerned in Birmingham atm?

All religions seem to have an issue with it, but if it's deemed Islamaphobic to be negative about their approach to this curriculum then where does that leave us as a society?

Amnesia · 23 May 2019 at 07:07

Thecaferacer said:
Anyone who thinks this legal definition is a good thing should take the substitution test and see if their opinion still holds.

Anyone who is negative towards a Christian or any culture or value of christianess should be treated automatically as racist.

Anyone who is negative towards Scientologists or his hostile or critical towards any behaviours or customs of Scientologists should be treated automatically as racist.

im going to intentionally miss your point but that wouldnt really effect the people here, there arent a group of people who make threads bashing christians every other day.

Roar87 · 23 May 2019 at 08:18

Amnesia said:
im going to intentionally miss your point but that wouldnt really effect the people here, there arent a group of people who make threads bashing christians every other day.

No one is doing that with Muslims either, people bash the ideology of Islam, quite rightly so too.

robgmun · 23 May 2019 at 08:21

StriderX said:
I still feel there’s a not small minority who look at brown people in their cultural dress and use Islam as a front loader for their bigotry. It doesn’t need to be accurate, cause they don’t care.

Hindus and Sikhs seem to get along in this country fantastically well. They intergrate and make great neighbours. I know myself and a vast majorty of people have absolutely no problems with them.

h4rm0ny · 23 May 2019 at 08:33

Amnesia said:
im going to intentionally miss your point but that wouldnt really effect the people here, there arent a group of people who make threads bashing christians every other day.

I think you mean Christianity, rather than Christians, if you want your substitution to be correct in regards to this thread.

EDIT: Beaten to it by Roar87.

Thecaferacer · 23 May 2019 at 08:38

Fubsy said:
How would this legislation deal with the current ongoing LGBT awareness curriculum that is causing grief for all concerned in Birmingham atm?

All religions seem to have an issue with it, but if it's deemed Islamaphobic to be negative about their approach to this curriculum then where does that leave us as a society?

In practical application the persons/groups who was advocating LGBTQ issues would be ok unless committing an offence. The Islamohobia definition seeks to label somebody as racist. In law being racist isn't an offence, only actual crimes can be racially aggravated.

This is a prime example of the oft quoted intersectionality wars. It's being racist Vs homophobic, who wins in that fight.

Amnesia said:
im going to intentionally miss your point but that wouldnt really effect the people here, there arent a group of people who make threads bashing christians every other day.

But that's assuming that people only have issue with this definition because it's about Islam. The only other thing like this is the anti-Semitism definition and that also got wide ranging ire.

Amnesia · 23 May 2019 at 08:56

Roar87 said:
No one is doing that with Muslims either, people bash the ideology of Islam, quite rightly so too.

Which muslims are part of and it doesnt just stop at islam, there are plenty of threads where muslims are criticized and the fact they are muslim doesnt like to be ignored.

Terminal_Boy · 23 May 2019 at 09:00

robgmun said:
Hindus and Sikhs seem to get along in this country fantastically well. They intergrate and make great neighbours. I know myself and a vast majorty of people have absolutely no problems with them.

Indeed. If your average CoE Brit was half as well behaved and productive as your average Hindu or Sikh Brit, the UK would be a far better place.

Hades · 23 May 2019 at 09:04

My wife's family are muslim and my brothers son is gay and just got married. I'm keeping my head down this year :eek:

Roar87 · 23 May 2019 at 09:06

Terminal_Boy said:
Indeed. If your average CoE Brit was half as well behaved and productive as your average Hindu or Sikh Brit, the UK would be a far better place.

Citation for this borderline racist comment?

200sols · 23 May 2019 at 09:08

Terminal_Boy said:
Indeed. If your average CoE Brit was half as well behaved and productive as your average Hindu or Sikh Brit, the UK would be a far better place.

More racist rubbish.

Hades · 23 May 2019 at 09:10

Roar87 said:
Citation for this borderline racist comment?

Indeed!

Terminal_Boy said:
Indeed. If your average CoE Brit was half as well behaved and productive as your average Hindu or Sikh Brit, the UK would be a far better place.

Let me turn that statement around for you and see whether it now seems racist...

Terminal_Boy said:
Indeed. If your average Hindu or Sikh Brit Brit was half as well behaved and productive as your average CoE Brit, the UK would be a far better place.