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Left wing people moaning ( Elections in the NL)

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by snowdog, 5 Jun 2010.

  1. snowdog

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    Hello,


    With the elections coming up here I'm often discussing them on various news sites.
    What boggles me most is, most people voting for the left wing parties, keep accusing me of being antisocial, egoistic and saying the right wing parties will divide the country in 2 and ruin in, and tell everyone to vote for the socialist party. Luckily, the biggest party atm in polls is exactly the party I like, A conservative-liberal party, but the lefties seem to **** them constantly.

    A short list of the parties and their stance on things:

    The current polls (seats out of 150):



    Now, this seems to completely panic most of the left wing brigade, they seem to be desperate, thinking people like me can be converted to vote for the SP ( socialist party), like that will ever happen, people who believe in a free market will never vote for a communist-socialst party! They are the slowest in doing anything about the debt and basically their solution to everything is to tax the successful/rich more. Do they really think that by name calling and swearing they can convert people to not vote on the right ?
     
    Last edited: 5 Jun 2010
  2. Naffa

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    People that favour the free market shouldn't vote for a 100% capitalist economic policy, either. I'd be fairly happy wit that, a liberal Conservative party making up the government with a social democratic Labour party holding them to account.

    Obviously I would want different result in the election though. ;)
     
  3. scorza

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    At least it appears that you have a decent choice of parties to vote for. In the UK we get the choice between a) right-wing authoritarian party, b) a slightly less right wing but more authoritarian party, and c) a less right wing, less authoritarian party.
     
  4. rypt

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    Left wingers :(
     
  5. snowdog

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    Aye the choice is larger but the political ideas of the people are also far more divided, it's always name calling between one or the other, most left wing people moan about having to work longer and how they are knackered after 40+ years of hard labour (imo their own fault for not finishing a proper education) and the right wing mainly about immigration, and taxes ( a lot move out to other countries like Portugal or Spain so they can keep more of their hard earned pennies). It's always a coalition of 3 or more parties.
     
  6. z3r0

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    Hard choice between:

    And:

     
  7. K1LLSW1TCH

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    Goddamn Left Wing hippies.
     
  8. semi-pro waster

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    I can't figure out why anyone would think that, not just people who are left wing. If someone is so easily swayed then do you really want to claim their support for your cause?

    You've got me curious, is there such a thing as a right wing hippy?
     
  9. Alex_6n2

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    My house mate is Dutch and is voting D66 this time around I think. He's bored with everyone else being crap apparently
     
  10. Cosimo

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    You’ve forgotten the middle of the road and right wing hippies. :p
     
  11. snowdog

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    OH bloody hell it looks like labour has done it again and will be the biggest, VVD ( lib conservatives) close second though with the same amount of votes counted. CDA ( christian democrats) big losers.

    70,4% of the votes counted (296 of 431 municipality's )

    Out of 150 seats
    Party , seats , seats in 2006 , difference

    CDA 21 41 -20 ( Christian democrats)
    PvdA 31 33 -2 (labour/social democrats)
    SP 15 25 -10 (socialists)
    VVD 31 21 +10 ( conservative liberals)
    PVV 23 9 +14 ( Nationalistic/populist right wing anti islam party)
    GL 10 7 +3 ( Green radical tree huggers)
    CU 5 6 -1 ( Christian union (anti abortion, euth etc crap party))
    D66 11 3 +8 ( social liberals)
    PvdD 1 2 -1 ( party for animals ( retards))
    SGP 2 2 0 ( strong christian party, backwards)
    Trots 0 1 -1 ( unimportant, they lost anyhow and will get no seats)


    Others who lost and aren't listed:
    Dutch Pirate Party


    I doubt this result will hold, a coalition would either be a dead center one ( CDA VVD PvdA, but cda and pvda just come from a collapsed government) or a four party one.
     
    Last edited: 10 Jun 2010
  12. scorza

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    Wonder if we'll see the same amount of panic in the Netherlands as we did in Britain at no overall party gaining control? I bet not ;)
     
  13. Dolph

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    I think Roger Scruton summed up the problem pretty well...

    Source

    A quick glance around some of the politics threads on here supports the idea, as does a look at most national politics in Europe...
     
  14. snowdog

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    nah we always have coalititions, usually a three party one.

    Luckily labour finally lost, the liberals are the largest party...;) 31 vs 30 seats and the road to a right wing coalition is open :D. 76 seats vvd + cda + pvv. I hope ik happens, no more bloody taxes that way in the coming period.
     
  15. jas72

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    I don't think so I think most left wing people think right wing people are selfish NOT evil.
     
  16. Nix

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    Politics aside, they've got a point.