Liverpool: Chinese Investment? [Update - Not China related]

BaZ87 · 2 Sep 2016 at 00:42

There's been some reported denials of a deal but the story rumbles on. Bloomberg are reporting that the Chinese group are willing to up their valuation following talks with FSG's advisors:

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...itors-said-prepared-to-weigh-higher-valuation

omnomnom said:
But thats it...what have FSG (NESV) actually invested ? They are doing the absolute bare minimum that is needed to run the club. The stadium was largely paid for by the council and whatever else has been loaned against the club...

It seems this Chinese investment talk is genuine, i don't believe it will be investment for a part share though, i think it will be for a takeover and honestly i think NESV will accept. If NESV don't accept then do we think there is a likelihood this consortium will look elsewhere in the league ? That could damage us further.

Late reply - what on earth? The council have not paid a penny towards the Stadium work!

FSG have put more money into the club than any other owner other than City and Chelsea's.

Mark1989 · 2 Sep 2016 at 17:51

The report today also claimed they feel valuation is now up to 1 billion due to us improving stadium and recent tv money

omnomnom · 2 Sep 2016 at 23:16

BaZ87 said:
There's been some reported denials of a deal but the story rumbles on. Bloomberg are reporting that the Chinese group are willing to up their valuation following talks with FSG's advisors:

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...itors-said-prepared-to-weigh-higher-valuation

Late reply - what on earth? The council have not paid a penny towards the Stadium work!

FSG have put more money into the club than any other owner other than City and Chelsea's.

They have towards the whole Anfield project. Fsg haven't put any money in...like i keep saying that stadium money was loaned to the club...this wasnt money given to Liverpool its a debt.

Made a profit this summer and we have a midfielder at lb and a rookie in nets. Not convinced by fsg at all.

BaZ87 · 2 Sep 2016 at 23:49

Anfield project = regeneration of the area, not the stadium. And yes FSG have loaned the club the money, interest free just like the other 10s of millions they've loaned to the club to allow them to spend when the club was losing money.

What on earth were you expecting or hoping for? Look at all these other clubs that have built/expanded their stadium and are having to borrow the money from banks and pay interest or haven't been able to secure the finance to start. Again, aside from Chelsea and City, can you come up with another club that have received the financial support we have from FSG? You can't. David Moores once loaned the club some money, he charged interest on his loan.

Why is it down to FSG if we haven't spent a great deal this window? All previous summers we've spent, even when the club was losing money. This summer has been an exception simply because we've had a number of valuable players that were surplus to requirements but I'm certain if Klopp wanted to spend another £40m, the money would be there for him - it seems as if it's Klopp that doesn't want to spend it though.

Pigeon_Killer · 7 Sep 2016 at 13:00

omnomnom said:
Made a profit this summer and we have a midfielder at lb and a rookie in nets. Not convinced by fsg at all.

Nothing to do with FSG

http://www.football365.com/news/revealed-why-klopp-rejected-gotze-and-chilwell

BaZ87 · 13 Oct 2020 at 11:56

With PPV games and Project Big Picture this news has flown under the radar but it appears that Liverpool, well FSG, are in the process of starting their own City Football Group.

Sometime ago it was reported that Richard Scudamore (long time PL CEO) had been recruited by an investment vehicle which included Billy Beane to help them with their plans to purchase a European football side and now in the last few days it's come out that a deal with FSG is on the cards. This new company has raised or has access to around $1.5bn and the plan is for them to invest that into FSG (so not just Liverpool but the Red Sox and other businesses) in return for sub 20% of a newly merged company. They then intend to float on the stockmarket to raise more funds to buy up more sports sides around the world.

There's no obvious or massive benefit to Liverpool in all of this. They might have a few friendly clubs around Europe that they can loan players to in the future but nothing earth-shattering. The key benefits will be in the other direction with FSG looking to grow these smaller sides, using everything they've learned from Liverpool, taking advantage of all the scouting & analytics Liverpool have already in place that these smaller sides couldn't afford themselves.

I can't see and don't believe that there's a clear link between this news and Project Big Picture before woppy pops up.

robfosters · 13 Oct 2020 at 12:19

Henry probably wouldn’t mind getting hold of New England Revolution somewhere down the line too.

Pigeon_Killer · 13 Oct 2020 at 12:25

I think there's a clear link tbh. FSG probably know Project Big Picture will be rejected so their next offer will be to buy the EFL, rather than purchase a European club, and turn them in to feeder leagues for Liverpool. Obviously owning the EFL would mean FSG could just move players to and from Liverpool without a fee.

BaZ87 · 13 Oct 2020 at 12:27

Pigeon_Killer said:
I think there's a clear link tbh. FSG probably know Project Big Picture will be rejected so their next offer will be to buy the EFL, rather than purchase a European club, and turn them in to feeder leagues for Liverpool. Obviously owning the EFL would mean FSG could just move players to and from Liverpool without a fee.

I really hope this is sarcasm.

woppy101 · 13 Oct 2020 at 12:35

BaZ87 said:
I really hope this is sarcasm.

Why? Liverpool seem intent on securing their place at the top of the pyramid through any means necessary

BaZ87 · 13 Oct 2020 at 12:39

woppy101 said:
Why? Liverpool seem intent on securing their place at the top of the pyramid through any means necessary

Oh wow

I'm pretty sure Pigeon was joking but you're serious

Because buying the EFL would mean buying the TV (and commercial) revenue from the League, you wouldn't actually own any of the clubs. And of course the clubs wouldn't sell off the entirity of their tv rights for the rest of time because they'll then have no revenue moving forwards. This is quite possibly the maddest question ever asked on here. It's like me offering to buy your oxygen supply - I don't think there's a price you'd sell that for woppy.

And btw, this is why the selling off 20% of the League to a private equity firm wasn't a good deal for the EFL.