Discussion in 'Motors' started by Transform_IT, 3 Feb 2021.
Does it detect rust?
That should be able to show a decent level of info then. I still wouldn't go for that engine myself, but if you do buy it, I'll be interested to hear how you get on with it long term.
Bug_Ones post about rust is a very valid one with an L322 actually. It was one of the reasons that i sold my otherwise excellent condition one previous owner one. My mechanic advised me that the frame underneath is rusting out, and wont have too many MOTs left, he put an advisory on the last MOT i did with the car about the subframe integrity or some such. I called it a day with it despite it being actually very reliable as thats a world i didnt want to consider getting into.
I am very interested in this and look forward to seeing an update if you purchase one.
I've got a 2011 plate RR 4.4 V8, bought it a couple of years ago and currently at about 70k mileage.
Its a great vehicle, but don't expect reliability! The amount of little electrical gremlins you can get with them is the main issue. I have one of the icarsoft diagnostic machine and it is always in the car, currently on the back seat having had to plug it in to clear an erroneous sensor fault which put it into limp mode the other day.
Mechanically, touch wood, I've not had issues. Replaced a few suspension components, sway bar links etc. but these take a hammering on the bridleway that leads to our house.
I would not have an old range rover if it was my only vehicle. Paying £6k for one is also asking for trouble in my opinion, I serviced mine recently (myself) by the time you've done a standard service, changed gearbox oil and filter, and replaced a few wear and tear components like brake pads/discs, you can easily be at £1000. Something significant fails and you're spending more to fix than you paid for the car!
Great advice from an owner which is always where people should listen! Good honest post sir.
I don't know if LR were using "Lucas" electric parts back then. Other British manufacturers were and their stuff was/is terrible.
Maybe opt for the Disco 3 then for that budget and can set aside a decent maintenance fund. They do go wrong but I'd say in other areas than the actual important /expensive stuff ( running gear / engine). If you are hands on the disco 3 forums are excellent and full of knowledgeable engineering types that know a thing or two with plenty of decent guides on most subjects.
We've had a 05 plate (cheaper tax) HSE for about 8 years now and not much has gone wrong to be fair. The engine has been fine (2.7 tdv6, we blanked the EGRs as soon as we got it and it's been solid) and I think the air con rad went. The suspension arms seem to wear easy and seize up / become an absolute pig and this can cost upwards of 1k for a corner or two depending how seized they are. We've had both of the rear corners done now. Again if you have a decent set of tools available alot of the issues can be sorted fairly easily (seized wishbones aside ).
I understand the L322 is very similar to the Disco 3 but can't advise what additional problems they may give.
Goes without saying also they ride very well and are extremely capable.
Not a full time 4x4 but the Nissan Pathfinder is a fully capable 4x4 - downside is 6K is going to be a pre-facelift and might have chassis corrosion issues you'd want to check before buying. They are a touch noisy on the road as well and the ride so-so though handling is reasonable if a bit vague. On the plus side they tend to have a fairly decent level of trim/features and at least my nearby Nissan dealers are about as good as you get dealer wise and their servicing prices generally aren't terrible.
Maybe not so much in the luxury SUV category but might be worth checking out.
Nothing about a Nissan Pathfinder, even remotely, says "Luxury" - unless you are a *****.
Depends if you are wanting to shout expensive car or not - on the newer variants the seats and some of the features are quite decent.
The pathfinder he could buy is a plastic mess inside, as per all other Nissans.
It will be more reliable than a RR, but a damp cave is more luxurious.
What about if it has a wonderful V6?
Yeah probably only get the older cloth seats in that price or really tatty leather, etc. if it does have the newer ones.
Still a lot of plastic but the interior on the newer ones isn't terrible - https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202102018572603 - the seats are far nicer in person than they look in pictures as well.
Only mentioned it as he seemingly only turned down the Qashqai on the basis it wasn't 4x4 capable :s
Sadly AFAIK they only have the YD25 (in this country) not the V9X or I might consider buying one - it isn't a patch on the engine in the Outlaw.
EDIT: Mind you - while I'm not a big V8 fan I probably wouldn't say no to a VK56 swap on my Navara hah.
My uncle, a few years back bought a 2007 Range Rover Sport 2.7 V6 Diesel, despite me advising him not to.
He paid £11k for it, it was 10 years old with 133k on the clock but ‘mint’ -FSH ‘Didn’t want for anything’ - bought from his ‘mate’ who is a second hand car dealer who runs his own business.
In the 10 months he owned it, he loved it, but it had:
1) Aircon condenser
2) Wheel bearing
3) Dash cluster rebuilt because speaker had failed, meaning parking sensors didn’t make a sound
4) Both EGR valves replaced
This was supposedly a mint car, which it absolutely wasn’t. Despite having marks on the body all over it, but my uncle was too proud to mention anything to anyone.
I drove it, it was comfortable enough, albeit dated. Fuel economy was rubbish and it wasn’t very quick in any sense of the word.
The straw that broke the camels back was when he was driving through Sevenoaks high St and it cut out. My uncle knows engines and cars, as he attempted to restart it he knew something bad had happened. Got it recovered to his ‘mate’ who diagnosed that the engine had seized, think it had slipped a tooth on the cambelt. Land Rover wanted 8k for a new bare block, apparently the 2.7 V6 doesn’t recondition well, trying to find a new, second hand engine was possible but we were advised by a Land Rover specialist in the Weald (where he lives) that it wasn’t worth it, and any new engine would be a ticking time bomb.
He cut his losses, put it up as is on Facebook market place, some polish guy bought it for 2.5k, he planned to take the 2.7 V6 out of his Jag S-Type which had failed its MOT due to corrosion and transplant it in the RRS.
My uncle then bought a Nissan Navara and never looked back.
So what's happened, any updates, are we now outside polishing our shiny new RR? come on, we need updates!
The diagnostic machine is probably still trying to finish compiling its report
I see nothing but common issues for any 10 year old 133k diesel car. Condensor maybe a tad unlucky but this is JLR.
As for the belt slipping a tooth that sounds like a monkey didn't do his job properly. A timing belt change is as successful as the monkey carrying out the job that day on that shift. 2.7 tdv6s are generally well regarded and don't just slip teeth.
I suppose, yes but as for the engine being well regarded, nope.
When the engine self destructed, we carried out lots of research online, and consulted a Land Rover specialist (Gigglepin) and the theme was common, the 2.7 is a load of crap.
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