M-audio DELTA 1010LT

SidewinderINC · 10 May 2006 at 19:58

same sound card as me that, and starscream! (he recommended it to me

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Andr3w · 10 May 2006 at 20:58

How do you find it?

I need a proper lead, (i can only go from amp into either the left or right socket) so i only get sound from the left or right speaker

What program do you use to record? I havent mangaged to get a nice guitar sound from it yet!

skinnyl · 10 May 2006 at 21:19

Andr3w said:
How do you find it?

I need a proper lead, (i can only go from amp into either the left or right socket) so i only get sound from the left or right speaker

What program do you use to record? I havent mangaged to get a nice guitar sound from it yet!

when you get a audio prog like cubase or logic you can just set it to 2 mono ins as opposed to 1 stereo in. it should be in the inputs section of the options. also have a looksy at the delta control panel..

as far as making a nice sound goes, it can be a little bit of a misson (as theres no speaker in the recording stage to make it sound good). its best just to experiment with EQ, delays and reverb.

i personally use cubase with amp-sim plugins, stereo delay and reverb. i get some okish results. i haven't trien them yet but some guy recomended me these for amp-sim plugins Site Thread i posted in sound on sound.

gl

Jack

SidewinderINC · 10 May 2006 at 21:49

i never ever go directly into the sound card from anything except for vocals and midi.

for guitar i always mic the amp now, after i found out how much better it sounds!

Andr3w · 10 May 2006 at 21:55

im going guitar > roland cube 15 amp > soundcard

SidewinderINC · 10 May 2006 at 21:56

what output does the roland have?

Andr3w · 10 May 2006 at 22:09

its called "Recording out/Phones"

http://www.feelmusic.fr/upload/1496_gd.jpg

SidewinderINC · 10 May 2006 at 22:52

fair enough, that should be fine then

i just like the sound that is given off from the speaker more than the direct signal..

you have got the right cable, you just need to set the soundcard up to register as a mono input

Andr3w · 11 May 2006 at 09:14

i have no idea how to do that

*hint newbie hint*

Sic · 11 May 2006 at 11:21

it'll be in the recording app. normally when you add a new instrument, choose it as mono input - that's how it works in garageband (and Sibelius when i was forced to use it for music A level

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SidewinderINC · 11 May 2006 at 16:58

how are you plugging the amp into the soundcard? i know you say you're using a cable

but where are you sticking the cable so to speak?

you can set it up to be a mono input in the "M tools" thing that may or may not be in your taskbar where the clock is...

Andr3w · 11 May 2006 at 17:11

Im using a 1/4" to phono adapater going into the recording out/phones socket

http://www.astarsolutions.co.uk/images/products/1126.jpg

then on the other end of the lead i only have one phono plug, so sound either comes out of the left, or right speakers

Bascially this cable
http://www.nexxia.co.uk/Hi-Fi&TVaccessories/images/NX-PL-011.jpg

but red not yellow

Im guessing i need one of these toget sound out of both speakers?
http://www.euronetwork.co.uk/acatalog/E109127.jpg

Andr3w · 12 May 2006 at 11:24

Just for messing about at the moment im using audacity, and there seems to be no way what so ever that the sound will come out of BOTH speakers

edit, nvm i managed by splitting the track into stero and then changing each section to mono
http://img134.imageshack.us/img134/1096/untitled6uj.jpg

Also, is this about how good the quality will get, or do you think i could make it better?

http://rapidshare.de/files/20255447/test.wav.html

starscream · 12 May 2006 at 13:00

That's about as good as you will get I think. Your amp is the limiting factor. You might try tweaking the EQ a bit to see if you can get it sounded a bit less muddy perhaps.

IMO the V-amp's and POD's are the best way to get a decent guitar sound into a pc (bar mic-ing up proper stack amps with quality microphones)

sjt269 · 12 May 2006 at 13:21

starscream said:
IMO the V-amp's and POD's are the best way to get a decent guitar sound into a pc (bar mic-ing up proper stack amps with quality microphones)

Don't forget the Toneport and Guitarport.

starscream · 12 May 2006 at 13:54

Toneport is a new one on me! I'll have to have a bit of a look at that!

Andr3w · 12 May 2006 at 14:08

What do you think of the sound on this? Personally i think it sounds quite nice, but then again i dont have a trained ear

Yes it does have phaser
http://rapidshare.de/files/20264499/song1.wav.html
I have tried messing around with the Equaliser to try get rid of the "mucky" sound,but to be honest, all this stuff is new to me and i have no idea what eq even does lol!

Got help me when i get cubase

starscream · 12 May 2006 at 16:29

It sounds OK I guess. Don't get me wrong, but I think you need to take some time to have a think about what your objectives are and what you are looking to record. At the moment you seem to be looking for things to buy and programs to use without really concentrating on what it is you actually want to do. You need to put a lot of time into writing and thinking about the arrangements before you even switch on the PC. Recording blindly into a bit of software you aren't familiar with is probably going to frustrate you to be honest.

dabotsonline · 13 May 2006 at 02:19

The 2496 is a wicked card - pretty much the standard entry-level soundcard for music production. I have the USB version and I love it.

TommoUK · 13 May 2006 at 12:03

I've been making music with Audacity recently with the 2496, going direct input from guitar (though mine goes into a preamp too). Also using a 15W amp, as I don't have an instrument mic and I can't get my big amp in my bedroom very easily

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Sounds like you just recorded it once and copied it in your song! It has a click thing at the start of each bar

I think audacity is capable of putting together good-ish quality music, you just need get used to using it. Keep practicing with it. I would get a pre-amp, I got a not too expensive AudioBuddy, made by M-Audio, and think my recorded guitar tone got much better from using it.

Here's a song I made:
my song

The timing isn't perfect, and some of the singing needs work but I think it shows you don't need to blow a few hundred quid on expensive recording software too soon. I was about to, but getting some better hardware ie. a preamp will be a better investment, I think.

I also recommend getting the program Hammerhead. Great for making drumtracks for your songs, before I got it I was recording some bongo drums.. which doesn't work for many types of music

Get it here:
Hammerhead