Mafia Trilogy Remaster

LoadsaMoney · 25 May 2020 at 17:32

Regularly runs at 20fps on console, and no 4k.

https://wccftech.com/mafia-ii-definitive-edition-console-peformance-20fps-ps4-pro/

muon · 25 May 2020 at 17:34

Tried it out and it isn't even a locked 4K60 using an overclocked 5700XT. Terrible performance for a game that looks rubbish. Not replaying it.

Decided to play Infinite Warfare today, locked 4K60.

Nevakonaza · 26 May 2020 at 09:16

I really enjoyed Mafia 2,So will most likely pick this up at some point,can definitely tell a difference in the remaster with the graphics just look more clear and better view distance.

I'm confused though,Will this "remaster" become a multipack where you get Mafia 1,2 & 3?

SkeeterUK · 26 May 2020 at 11:04

It already is its called the mafia trilogy on steam with the remake and the others remastered. Bit pricey tho.

rubberduck · 26 May 2020 at 17:39

This whole remaster thing seems like an offer I can easily refuse.

TrojanWhore · 26 May 2020 at 23:58

I saw a YouTube video earlier saying it was just a slight graphical improvement (Mafia 2) and am I right in thinking only 2 and 3 are available now and 1 is still to come?

I loved 2 back in the day, especially the driving with it set to 'simulation', can anyone confirm if it still feels the same?

Digital X · 27 May 2020 at 00:36

Mafia 2 and 3 Definitive are available now, Mafia 1 Remake is coming in August.

Daniel Vavra didn't even know about the remake until recently. What I would give to have him back working on it.

BowdonUK · 27 May 2020 at 11:13

Wasn't Mafia 1 and 2 made by a different team?

I had Mafia 3 from before, recently completed it and all the DLC's as I was expecting Mafia 4. It updated recently with the definitive edition patch, though I haven't played it.

I've been playing Mafia 2 definitive edition. Back in the day I played this and all the dlc's. This has all the dlc's included. There is frame stuttering, even in the cut scenes which is odd. I'm on PS4 Pro.

Jimbo · 27 May 2020 at 12:08

I just picked up The re mastered trilogy on cdkeys for £39.99 you get the lot. Bargain in my book. Love these games.

Cyber-Mav · 27 May 2020 at 23:20

Mafia 2 definitive stuttering like mad.

Kelt · 28 May 2020 at 02:19

SkeeterUK said:
Oh they removed physx from mafia 2 i think, in the original it has options, but in the remastered it doesnt.

It's still there!

Go to options, set graphics to high.

Exit game.

Go to My Game/Mafia II Definitive Edition/Data/profiles/*game ID*

Edit settings.xml

Check Apex setting, if it isn't 2 then set it so.

Save and exit.

Go to game folder, got to EDIT/APEX

Back up the Cloth folder then delete the original.

Boom, you got Physx back!

You can't see it in benchmarks, game only.

Well nice, real shame Physx didn't catch on for us Nvidia users, makes a big difference to games when implemented well.

Paul_cz · 28 May 2020 at 11:42

BowdonUK said:
Wasn't Mafia 1 and 2 made by a different team?

Mafia 1 was made by Illusion Softworks, directed by Dan Vávra. Same team then went to make Mafia 2. Unfortunately it took 8 years because their chosen engine for M2 (Renderware) was bought by EA and made unavailable for licensing. So after spending couple years with it they had to make a new engine and for next-gen (at the time) as well.
Dan Vávra wrote and designed lot of Mafia 2, but year before it was finished he left Illusion (now it was called 2K Czech because Take2 bought it and renamed it). He left because foreign management was meddling with the design and he got fed up, plus he spent couple years on projects that were not greenlit (incl. his version of Mafia 3 and HiTech, of which video can be seen on youtube).
After he left, he spent few years finding investor for Warhorse so he could make Kingdom Come Deliverance. 2K closed Prague office in 2012 or so, so many people from there who worked on Mafia then went to Warhorse.

2K then established Hangar 13 in Novato, and added Brighton as well as integrating the remains of 2K Czech into it. So now Hangar 13 has 4 studios (Brighton, Novato, reopened Prague and Brno). They worked on the Mafia 3 as it exists and on Mafia 1 remake.

BowdonUK · 28 May 2020 at 13:46

Paul_cz said:
Mafia 1 was made by Illusion Softworks, directed by Dan Vávra. Same team then went to make Mafia 2. Unfortunately it took 8 years because their chosen engine for M2 (Renderware) was bought by EA and made unavailable for licensing. So after spending couple years with it they had to make a new engine and for next-gen (at the time) as well.
Dan Vávra wrote and designed lot of Mafia 2, but year before it was finished he left Illusion (now it was called 2K Czech because Take2 bought it and renamed it). He left because foreign management was meddling with the design and he got fed up, plus he spent couple years on projects that were not greenlit (incl. his version of Mafia 3 and HiTech, of which video can be seen on youtube).
After he left, he spent few years finding investor for Warhorse so he could make Kingdom Come Deliverance. 2K closed Prague office in 2012 or so, so many people from there who worked on Mafia then went to Warhorse.

2K then established Hangar 13 in Novato, and added Brighton as well as integrating the remains of 2K Czech into it. So now Hangar 13 has 4 studios (Brighton, Novato, reopened Prague and Brno). They worked on the Mafia 3 as it exists and on Mafia 1 remake.

I wish we could Like posts on the forum. That was a very informative post.

I thought I recognised Dan Vavra. I remember playing Kingdom Come Deliverance.

I wonder if we'll ever get a Mafia 4.

Jimbo · 28 May 2020 at 20:54

What sort of performance are people getting. I have a decent pc and it's struggling in 1440p. I'm using high setting I tried benchmark and it was only classed as C. Struggles to stay over 60fps. Can't be right. I remember i tried physics on with my 5700 at and it ran terrible. I turned it off and I was getting 200fps. May have to do the edit thing.

VincentHanna · 28 May 2020 at 21:00

Well your 5700 doesn't do Physx, and the CPU is horrible at running it.

Jimbo · 28 May 2020 at 21:24

Yeah that's what I'm saying about Physx. It's supposed to be enabled by default on remaster so when I put everything in high it's just not good. I'll try then hack to disable it. A 5700XT and a Ryzen 3600 should be plenty for this game.

Jimbo · 29 May 2020 at 11:04

Strange game this. i havent touched the Physx yet but i ran benchmark again on high settings and got min 28fps max 166fps average 82.1fps Rank A. Game is performing optimally.

Game is performing very nicely indeed now.

McBain · 19 Jun 2020 at 20:08

I enjoyed playing it through again despite the gameplay feeling a little dated. Examples:

- No bullet penetration, yet enemies can shoot you behind cover no problem
- Police line of sight is off
- Far too many police, the budget for Empire Bay must be crazy
- Blindfire doesn't exist, at least not as I could tell. Enemies can blind fire with ridiculous accuracy no problem

I also tried Mafia 3 but to be honest I couldn't live with the vaseline smeared over everything. Mafia 2 looks considerably better, plus the story for 2 is in a different league as is the sound track

(Buddy Holly, Eddie Cochran, Little Richard etc... awesome!).

All that being said I'm glad I bought the trilogy as for the money you can't go wrong. 2 remastered with all DLC, 3 with all DLC and 1 remade from the ground up - thats a lot of gaming for the cash.

McBain · 24 Jun 2020 at 18:00

I might've been a bit harsh on 3, I've gone back to it and it's better than I remember. The DLC is actually pretty good as well, substantial and interesting.

unwashed potato! · 19 Jul 2020 at 00:44

Playing mafia 3 now for the first time and these are my fears for mafia 1 of how they will ruin it.

They will remove the need to learn to break into a car and just have it so all cars are drivable from the start
Remove speed limit and red lights issues with the cops and it being something you have to pay attention to as cops aren't easy to get away from in the starting vehicles
Health regen by simply not being shot for x amount of seconds
Arcade driving
Removed the ability to do missions in different ways that'll effect later sections, e.g the mission where you're collecting money from various places and you have to go to that country house but it goes sour. When you arrive if you blow out the yellow cars tyres, you then won't get a chase section to the mission later. And various other things like that I forgot.
I feel changing Tommy's look hasn't kept the original character feel which is a bit disappointing as Tommy was the best character in all 3 and it feels he's being erased. Also the voice too, though I can kind of accept this as they will likely have new scenes and need a new voice actor to do it all
They will add a god awful mini map
Far too much hand holding. Mafia 3 just points to every single thing you can do. Let me figure it out ffs.