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Man city escape ban! [Update 14/2/20 - 2 year CL ban]

Discussion in 'The Football Stadium' started by Mark1989, 13 Aug 2019.

  1. Stretch

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    Farce.
     
  2. omnomnom

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    This could be the beginning of the end for UEFA. There has to be some sort of FFP or clubs could just go wild. FFP is finished...it might just be that this sparks the whole super league back up again.
     
  3. The_One

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    So basically clubs can get away with cheating because uefa has no clout anymore

    nice

    bolton and wigan got crucified for trying to save themselves from liquidation

    city let off the hook innocent but you can have a 10 mill fine. Because the innocent get fined dont they :mad:
     
  4. omnomnom

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    Absolutely. Imagine just accepting a 10mil fine like that....funny.
     
  5. fez

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    Sounds like City basically did a good enough job of not taking the absolute ****, covering their tracks and not cooperating with the UEFA investigation to make it easy for CAS to overturn it.

    Either UEFA will amend their rules or they will drop FFP. I'm amazed there isn't a clause in there that basically says "if we decide that you have wilfully broken the rules we are free to punish you how we see fit". Why is it a right that any club gets to play in the CL. You should be able to ban a club from your competition if you decide they have broken the rules.
     
  6. The_One

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    Hope madrid tank them out the competition in the 2nd leg
     
  7. robfosters

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    I hope they don’t win anything ever again tbh.
     
  8. LeMson

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    What a joke
     
  9. Shamikebab

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  10. BaZ87

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    So basically CAS found them guilty of not cooperating with UEFA's investigation however the charges around actually cheating FFP were dismissed as there's a 5 year time limit on them and these charges relate to things 6-8 years ago.
     
  11. fez

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    I think the 5 year limit is a UEFA rule as well. Its an utter joke that City have basically stalled and got in the way of the investigation and that resulted in their escape from punishment but it sounds like it perhaps was the "right" decision from CAS based on what they were looking at.

    Lets be honest, how often do massively rich companies actually get punished for being utter dicks. Almost never. And if they are punished, its never to an extent that would make them consider not doing it in future.
     
  12. Ayahuasca

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    [​IMG]
     
  13. The_One

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    Was that the man city xmas party
     
  14. rebel rebel

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    Good news for the incoming Newcastle owners.
     
  15. IronSpider

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    Don't care the whole ruling is a farce. Either have a proper cap on spending on wages and transfers or let anyone that can afford it spend it. Otherwise there's no way for any team to ever break into the top 4 consistently no matter who owns them. FFP just tried to maintain the status quo of elite.

    Hopefully this will see the whole sham scrapped.
     
  16. Ayahuasca

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    It absolutely needs scrapping and replacing with far more robust regulations, being able to wangle your way out because the main incidents occured more than 5 years ago is an absolute joke.
     
  17. McBain

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    Wonder how many palms had to be greased for that?
     
  18. fez

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    FFP tried to stop the massive inflation caused by super rich clubs not giving a **** about how much players cost or how much their wage bill was.

    Liverpool have managed to win the PL hardly spending a thing. Leicester won the PL recently. We have a fight for the European places this season with potentially 8 clubs in the running. FFP is a good thing because football is becoming ridiculous with the money involved.

    What do you think is the cause for the huge rise in the cost of players and wages over the past 10/15 years?
     
  19. Azza

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    FFP come about because those established super clubs (United, Chelsea, Madrid, Barca etc) at the time didn't want teams like City and PSG who are effectively state owned taking over their market.
     
  20. adam cool dude

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    If you have built an empire through hard work then why should someone be able to come along and buy success with money? Yes you need money to sustain that success but it can be built from the ground up. Just look at Nottingham Forest. I am a massive motorsport fan as well and most formats are basically dead now compared to 20 years ago because the money side is unregulated and it has made the sport rubbish. In the rare cases where it is (Nascar) the sport is still fun.

    Team's like Ajax, Benfica, Porto etc have a great sporting heritage and still have a fantastic setup of doing the right thing bringing players through the academy and scouting players. These teams brimming with history will never be able to compete again as soon as they have a decent team that does well. It is picked clean by the money clubs.

    I understand this isn't just PSG, City, Chelsea but they have just added to the problem and multiplied it by ten.

    I cannot think of a single positive that Manchester City has brought to the game of football from the grass roots side of things.

    Something really needs to change. A cap on home grown tallent required in a squad, a cap on spending money, a cap on amount of players that can be bought etc. The rules need to be torn up and reworked or else in the next ten years the sport is going to be worse for it.