Morals aside...

NeedleGunner · 7 Feb 2006 at 22:17

Scene 3 - Job Centre
Pauline greets her Jobseekers and does an exercise in confidence with Mickey involving analogies about Lucozade.

Excerpt
Pauline: So Ross, take a good look at me...
Ross: Do I have to?
Pauline: Yes. And take a good look at Mickey. What have I got that Mickey hasn't?
Ross: A moustache

Thats my contribution to this thread, but in all honesty big_white_dog84 maybe you should be asking your local job centre

G|mp · 7 Feb 2006 at 22:18

Micky Love !!!!!

Vertigo · 8 Feb 2006 at 00:16

No you flaming well can't, and a bloody good job too.

Until you've actually contributed something via tax, why should you have any right to claim anything back? That's our tax money you're looking to pilfer.

Either get out of bed and do some work or have no money, simple choice really

EDIT: Just seen the bit about the bridging - at least it's not the full dole but I still don't see why you're entitled to anything tbh.

big_white_dog84 · 8 Feb 2006 at 09:33

I have contributed a lot via tax - a hellova lot more than most people my age who left school at 16 and got a dead-end job. You know nothing about me vertigo1. All I want is an answer to my question.

Visage · 8 Feb 2006 at 09:35

You certainly used to be able to - i claimed unemployment benefit between my a-lavels and starting uni - though that was over 10 years ago.

Weebull · 8 Feb 2006 at 11:07

I'm pretty sure you can, and you might not even need to lie about having a job lined up, but I probably wouldn't risk it.

I love the high and mightyness on here. I mean, the guy's got a proper graduate job lined up and everything, something that will no doubt pay back most of what he's claimed within a few months of being there, and yet heaven forbid he claime for some kind of unemployment benefit while he's actually unemployed, instead of spending a month looking for a rubbish job, no doubt lying to them about how long he'll be working for them (very few places like it when you tell them you'll be gone after a few weeks I find), followed by having to quit soon after starting, meaning he'll get very little money out of it anyway.

Sign on, get covered for the couple of months between work, and enjoy your break.

dirtydog · 8 Feb 2006 at 11:25

big_white_dog84 said:
If you actually read my post you would see that I am in my final year of University and will be starting a job in September. Loans HAVE been enough, combined with being an Officer in the Royal Naval Reserve and a volunteer with a group of young adults with severe disabilities. Tube. I have also worked all the hours God sent during all my holidays and have built up savings to see me through the academic year.

No offence but you're not suited to be an officer then if you think it's okay to fraudulently claim benefits and stay in bed all day - you might think you have the right but you don't.

InsomniaCalls · 8 Feb 2006 at 11:27

He has a job lined up and until then he has no income.
He should be entitled to income support.
Why apply for a job that'll last for a month or so and look crap on his CV,
leading future employers to think he can't stick a job :confused:

Really - some people need to step off their pedestal.

dirtydog · 8 Feb 2006 at 11:27

big_white_dog84 said:
I have contributed a lot via tax - a hellova lot more than most people my age who left school at 16 and got a dead-end job. You know nothing about me vertigo1. All I want is an answer to my question.

I can answer your question. Can you claim JSA legitimately if you have no intention of working? No you cannot.

dirtydog · 8 Feb 2006 at 11:28

InsomniaCalls said:
He has a job lined up and until then he has no income.
He should be entitled to income support.
Why apply for a job that'll last for a month or so and look crap on his CV,
leading future employers to think he can't stick a job

Really - some people need to step off their pedestal.

He is entitled to JSA, providing he looks for a job and takes one if offered. Income support is for people who cannot work for whatever reason. Also he is not compelled to put down a two month temporary job on his CV.

KaHn · 8 Feb 2006 at 11:40

He can actually sign onto the dole as "he has just been made un-employed from full time education" I know a lot of people who did arts degrees do this while the look for something worth while to their talents.

I would suggest just get a bar job in a trendy pub and try to hit on random girls.

KaHn

dirtydog · 8 Feb 2006 at 11:41

KaHn said:
He can actually sign onto the dole as "he has just been made un-employed from full time education" I know a lot of people who did arts degrees do this while the look for something worth while to their talents.

I did say he can sign on. But he needs to seek and be available for work.

KaHn · 8 Feb 2006 at 11:43

dirtydog said:
I did say he can sign on. But he needs to seek and be available for work.

Sorry dirty, i missed a lot of your posts as I was annoyed at the narrowmindedness(sp?) of vertigo and skipped most of the "I work hard you student bum why dont you get a job" posts

KaHn

InsomniaCalls · 8 Feb 2006 at 11:49

dirtydog said:
He is entitled to JSA, providing he looks for a job and takes one if offered.

Fair play but obviously he has to make it known that he'll be leaving his post for another job almost immediately.
I don't know too many employers who would bother with the expense of training someone for them to leave the next month.

I say apply for JSA and make sure you're frank and honest in your interviews.
If you get a job for a month and the employer is happy with that then you work. If not, then you've had some cash to tide you over.

dirtydog · 8 Feb 2006 at 11:55

InsomniaCalls said:
Fair play but obviously he has to make it known that he'll be leaving his post for another job almost immediately.
I don't know too many employers who would bother with the expense of training someone for them to leave the next month.

Absolutely, he wouldn't be hired for a 'proper' job but there are temporary and short term labouring jobs available, and if he signs on for JSA he may find that the Jobcentre sends him for one.

I say apply for JSA and make sure you're frank and honest in your interviews.
If you get a job for a month and the employer is happy with that then you work. If not, then you've had some cash to tide you over.

Agreed.

big_white_dog84 · 8 Feb 2006 at 12:22

dirtydog said:
No offence but you're not suited to be an officer then if you think it's okay to fraudulently claim benefits and stay in bed all day - you might think you have the right but you don't.

How would you know whether I'm 'suited to be an officer' or not? I think I'm bloody good at it, and my reports and subordinates would agree.

dirtydog · 8 Feb 2006 at 12:33

big_white_dog84 said:
How would you know whether I'm 'suited to be an officer' or not? I think I'm bloody good at it, and my reports and subordinates would agree.

My post that you quoted contains the answer to your question.

Beren · 8 Feb 2006 at 12:58

You have no income therefore you are entitled to income support. Are you going to be trying to do any work for the next couple of months though?

It's not like you are intending to sit on your bum for two months before starting to look for a job or anything, and I know plenty of students that have more or less done that...

Freeman · 8 Feb 2006 at 13:11

I guess hardly anyone read the title of this thread then.

big_white_dog84 · 8 Feb 2006 at 13:18

dirtydog said:
My post that you quoted contains the answer to your question.

And what do you know about the requirements of an Officer in the RNR?