MotoGP 2014 Season

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I think he should have stayed at Yam, had a shot at a couple of podiums etc and maybe just maybe a win. With another year of decent press surrounding him he still could have walked into a decent paying CRT team at worse! Now he is going to ride that Ducati around getting frustrated and moaning all the time.. Im betting he doesn't even get a top 6 this year in dry conditions!
 
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test 2 at sepang day 1

1. Alvaro Bautista ESP Go&Fun Honda Gresini (RC213V) 2m 0.848s (Lap 60/61)
2. Aleix Espargaro ESP NGM Mobile Forward Racing (FTR-M1) 2m 0.900s | +0.052s (28/31)
3. Pol Espargaro ESP Monster Yamaha Tech 3 (YZR-M1) 2m 0.999s | +0.151s (53/57)
4. Andrea Dovizioso ITA Ducati Team (Desmosedici) 2m 1.029s | +0.181s (46/47)
5. Jorge Lorenzo ESP Yamaha Factory Racing (YZR-M1) 2m 1.158s | +0.310s (54/56)
6. Dani Pedrosa ESP Repsol Honda Team (RC213V) 2m 1.160s | +0.312s (46/47)
7. Valentino Rossi ITA Yamaha Factory Racing (YZR-M1) 2m 1.349s | +0.501s (28/65)
8. Stefan Bradl GER LCR Honda MotoGP (RC213V) 2m 1.491s | +0.643s (32/50)
9. Bradley Smith GBR Monster Yamaha Tech 3 (YZR-M1) 2m 1.644s | +0.796s (47/54)
10. Nicky Hayden USA Drive M7 Aspar (RCV1000R) 2m 2.227s | +1.379s (53/55)
11. Cal Crutchlow GBR Ducati Team (Desmosedici) 2m 2.319s | +1.471s (45/48)
12. Andrea Iannone ITA Pramac Racing (Desmosedici) 2m 2.334s | +1.486s (30/51)
13. Hiroshi Aoyama JPN Drive M7 Aspar (RCV1000R) 2m 2.709s | +1.861s (57/59)
14. Colin Edwards USA NGM Mobile Forward Racing (FTR-M1) 2m 2.743s | +1.895s (29/47)
15. Yonny Hernandez COL Pramac Racing (Desmosedici) 2m 2.823s | +1.975s (45/50)
16. Hector Barbera ESP Avintia Blusens (FTR-Kawasaki) 2m 2.975s | +2.127s (45/47)
17. Randy De Puniet FRA Suzuki Test Rider (XRH-1) 2m 3.341s | +2.493s (66/73)
18. Scott Redding GBR Go&Fun Honda Gresini (RCV1000R) 2m 3.553s | +2.705s (50/51)
19. Michele Pirro ITA Ducati Test Rider (Desmosedici) 2m 3.991s | +3.143s (37/40)
20. Katsuyuki Nakasuga JPN Yamaha Test Rider (YZR-M1) 2m 4.165s | +3.317s (41/45)
21. Mike Di Meglio FRA Avintia Blusens (FTR-Kawasaki) 2m 4.885s | +4.037s (27/59)
22. Karel Abraham CZE Cardion AB Motoracing (RCV1000R) 2m 5.638s | +4.790s (31/36)
23. Nobuatsu Aoki JPN Suzuki Test Rider (XRH-1) 2m 7.302s | +6.454s (3/10)
 
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test 2 at sepang day 2
dovi ran the open class ducati today, but cal didn't
tech 3 had yamaha's seamless shift gearbox yesterday and today

1. Dani Pedrosa ESP Repsol Honda Team (RC213V) 2m 0.039s (Lap 55/57)
2. Aleix Espargaro ESP NGM Mobile Forward Racing (FTR-M1) 2m 0.320s | +0.281s (39/41)
3. Alvaro Bautista ESP Go&Fun Honda Gresini (RC213V) 2m 0.500s | +0.461s (52/55)
4. Valentino Rossi ITA Yamaha Factory Racing (YZR-M1) 2m 0.605s | +0.566s (9 /60)
5. Andrea Dovizioso ITA Ducati Team (Desmosedici) 2m 0.787s | +0.748s (8 /48)
6. Stefan Bradl GER LCR Honda MotoGP (RC213V) 2m 0.902s | +0.863s (24/30)
7. Cal Crutchlow GBR Ducati Team (Desmosedici) 2m 0.952s | +0.913s (12/52)
8. Pol Espargaro ESP Monster Yamaha Tech 3 (YZR-M1) 2m 1.027s | +0.988s (12/47)
9. Jorge Lorenzo ESP Yamaha Factory Racing (YZR-M1) 2m 1.049s | +1.010s (30/30)
10. Bradley Smith GBR Monster Yamaha Tech 3 (YZR-M1) 2m 1.098s | +1.059s (57/60)
11. Andrea Iannone ITA Pramac Racing (Desmosedici) 2m 1.173s | +1.134s (23/49)
12. Yonny Hernandez COL Pramac Racing (Desmosedici) 2m 1.658s | +1.619s (7 /50)
13. Colin Edwards USA NGM Mobile Forward Racing (FTR-M1) 2m 1.996s | +1.957s (25/45)
14. Nicky Hayden USA Drive M7 Aspar (RCV1000R) 2m 2.088s | +2.049s (55/59)
15. Randy de Puniet FRA Suzuki Test Rider (XRH-1) 2m 2.139s | +2.100s (59/39)
16. Hector Barbera ESP Avintia Blusens (FTR-Kawasaki) 2m 2.149s | +2.110s (43/45)
17. Scott Redding GBR Go&Fun Honda Gresini (RCV1000R) 2m 2.652s | +2.613s (38/24)
18. Hiroshi Aoyama JPN Drive M7 Aspar (RCV1000R) 2m 2.786s | +2.747s (70/72)
19. Michele Pirro ITA Ducati Test Rider (Desmosedici) 2m 2.799s | +2.760s (25/22)
20. Katsuyuki Nakasuga JPN Yamaha Test Rider (YZR-M1) 2m 2.802s | +2.763s (47/48)
21. Mike di Meglio FRA Avintia Blusens (FTR-Kawasaki) 2m 3.946s | +3.907s (50/51)
22. Karel Abraham CZE Cardion AB Motoracing (RCV1000R) 2m 5.198s | +5.159s (4 /25)
23. Nobuatsu Aoki JPN Suzuki Test Rider (XRH-1) 2m 7.462s | +7.423s (19/20)
 
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I was going to say how disappointed I was with Scott Redding but he only has Nicky Hayden ahead of him on the same customer Honda Racer. I think I would have gone for the leased Yamaha engine as Honda won't let anyone on the customer bike get anywhere near the works Repsol team.
 
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test 2 at sepang day 3(final day)
cal was also on the open class bike today.
ducati have till the end of today to enter there bikes in to the open class.
its looking very likely now

1. Valentino Rossi ITA Yamaha Factory Racing (YZR-M1) 1m 59.999s (Lap 13/41)
2. Dani Pedrosa ESP Repsol Honda Team (RC213V) 1m 59.999s | +0.000s (47/50)
3. Andrea Dovizioso ITA Ducati Team (Desmosedici) 2m 0.067s | +0.068s (6/36)
4. Aleix Espargaro ESP NGM Mobile Forward Racing (FTR-M1) 2m 0.101s | +0.102s (7/43)
5. Stefan Bradl GER LCR Honda MotoGP (RC213V) 2m 0.164s | +0.165s (12/48)
6. Alvaro Bautista ESP Go&Fun Honda Gresini (RC213V) 2m 0.506s | +0.507s (9/60)
7. Jorge Lorenzo ESP Yamaha Factory Racing (YZR-M1) 2m 0.619s | +0.620s (20/70)
8. Cal Crutchlow GBR Ducati Team (Desmosedici) 2m 0.790s | +0.791s (7/62)
9. Bradley Smith GBR Monster Yamaha Tech 3 (YZR-M1) 2m 0.804s | +0.805s (69/71)
10. Pol Espargaro ESP Monster Yamaha Tech 3 (YZR-M1) 2m 1.032s | +1.033s (6/54)
11. Andrea Iannone ITA Pramac Racing (Desmosedici) 2m 1.198s | +1.199s (26/47)
12. Randy De Puniet FRA Suzuki Test Rider (XRH-1) 2m 1.430s | +1.431s (53/55)
13. Yonny Hernandez COL Pramac Racing (Desmosedici) 2m 1.497s | +1.498s (51/56)
14. Colin Edwards USA NGM Mobile Forward Racing (FTR-M1) 2m 1.748s | +1.749s (23/35)
15. Nicky Hayden USA Drive M7 Aspar (RCV1000R) 2m 1.924s | +1.925s (57/59)
16. Michele Pirro ITA Ducati Test Rider (Desmosedici) 2m 2.029s | +2.030s (8/48)
17. Hiroshi Aoyama JPN Drive M7 Aspar (RCV1000R) 2m 2.070s | +2.071s (61/61)
18. Scott Redding GBR Go&Fun Honda Gresini (RCV1000R) 2m 2.228s | +2.229s (48/50)
19. Hector Barbera ESP Avintia Blusens (FTR-Kawasaki) 2m 2.341s | +2.342s (13/54)
20. Katsuyuki Nakasuga JPN Yamaha Test Rider (YZR-M1) 2m 3.115s | +3.116s (3/30)
21. Mike Di Meglio FRA Avintia Blusens (FTR-Kawasaki) 2m 3.499s | +3.500s (15/52)
22. Karel Abraham CZE Cardion AB Motoracing (RCV1000R) 2m 4.304s | +4.305s (5/29)
23. Nobuatsu Aoki JPN Suzuki Test Rider (XRH-1) 2m 6.482s | +6.483s (3/14)
 
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Official: Ducati goes Open class for MotoGP

we sort of knew this was the best way forward for ducati.
cal on the move to the open class
http://www.crash.net/motogp/news/200739/1/cal-crutchlow-talks-open-motogp-move.html

one rumour that's surfaced is Yamaha are meetings with Bridgestone ... if they don't get the 2013 tyre they used at the last test, VR & JL could be announced in the open class later today too.
 
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Official: Ducati goes Open class for MotoGP

we sort of knew this was the best way forward for ducati.

one rumour that's surfaced is Yamaha are meetings with Bridgestone ... if they don't get the 2013 tyre they used at the last test, VR & JL could be announced in the open class later today too.

Ducati have nothing to lose by going open class, so this seems like actually something good.

As for Yamaha, I'm not so sure as they have a proven track record and this seems a little bit of a "baby throwing toy out of pram"/"spoilt brat".

Isn't Motogp heading towards being fully open class in a few years?
 
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for anyone that's not sure of the differences between open and factory here is a good read to highlight those differences..


With Ducati having elected to switch to racing as an Open entry in the MotoGP class, it is time for a quick refresher course on the rules. Below is a primer on the key differences between racing as an Open entry and racing as a Factory Option entry, and the advantages and disadvantages of each.

FACTORY OPTION RULES

Factory Option bikes have 20 litres of fuel, and 5 engines to last the season. No engine development is allowed, the engine specifications being frozen before the first race in Qatar.

Factories have to supply template engines with specifications of all parts at the race, those parts must remain unchanged. Development is frozen on parts not accessible when engine is sealed. In short, this means engine internals, crankshaft, crankcases, cams, valves, pistons, conrods, etc. Gearboxes can still be modified.

Engine specifications must be identical within teams. This means that engines for Dani Pedrosa and Marc Marquez must be identical, Jorge Lorenzo and Valentino Rossi's engines must be identical, and Bradley Smith and Pol Espargaro's engines must be identical.

Testing is also limited for Factory Option teams. They can take part in all official tests (the three one-day tests after Jerez, Barcelona and Brno) and on five days at a nominated circuit.

Factory Option teams must use the spec Magneti Marelli ECU and datalogger, but can develop their own software and use their own sensor package.


OPEN OPTION RULES

Open Option bikes can use 24 litres of fuel, and can use 12 engines throughout the season. There are no restrictions on engine development, each of the 12 engines can be completely different, and engines can be different between teammates.

Testing is limited only by the tyre allowance (120 tires per season per contracted rider). Riders can test when and where they want, although not on a circuit where a race is to be held within 15 days.

Open Option teams must use the spec Magneti Marelli ECU package, including datalogger, sensor package and software.

Open Option teams have an extra option tire, of softer compound.


THE PROS AND CONS

Why would you choose to stay with the Factory Option?

For the manufacturers, one major way they justify their participation in MotoGP is the returns on research and development.

Having just five engines for the season offers a chance to learn about engine durability. 20 litres of fuel means that they have to pursue combustion efficiency and throttle response on very lean mixture. And the freedom to develop their own software means that manufacturers can learn about vehicle dynamics and controlling motorcycles under all sorts of different circumstances.

Why would you choose to go Open?

More fuel, a softer tyre, but most of all, more testing and the freedom to develop the engine during the year. In Ducati's case, they fear they need to modify the engine to improve bike balance and behavior. They may need to change the location or dimensions of engine components, add weight to the crankshaft, relocate engine or gearbox shafts, change the engine attitude (rotating it forwards or backwards). They can't do that under the engine development freeze, but they can as an Open entry. And under the Open rules, they can test those changes with Andrea Dovizioso and Cal Crutchlow.


TYRES AND FUEL

Tyres: The softer tyre available to the Open teams offers a clear performance advantage, but only in the early stages of the race. The less complex championship software is not as effective as managing tire wear as the software produced by Yamaha and Honda, which means that tyre performance will drop more towards the end of the race. HRC and Yamaha use data collected during practice to enter into their predictive algorithms, which modifies the traction control settings based on predicted tyre wear for each lap. The same software can also modify its own behaviour based on feedback from sensors, adding or subtracting traction control if tyre wear is more or less than expected.

Fuel: Having 20% more fuel is an advantage for the Open teams over the duration of the race. But in the early laps, carrying around 3kg extra weight will make stopping the bike a little harder, until the fuel burns off. The Factory Option teams will struggle with throttle response, especially at tracks such as Motegi and Misano which are heavy on fuel. The Open bikes will not have an issue with fuel, giving better throttle response all throughout the race.
 
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Philip Island works teams tyre test day 1

1. Jorge Lorenzo ESP Yamaha Factory Racing (YZR-M1) 1m 29.213s [68 laps / 327.3km/h top speed]
2. Cal Crutchlow GBR Ducati Team (Desmosedici) 1m 29.576s | +0.363s [68 / 333.3]
3. Valentino Rossi ITA Yamaha Factory Racing (YZR-M1) 1m 29.730s | +0.517s [85 / 330.3]
4. Dani Pedrosa ESP Repsol Honda Team (RC213V) 1m 29.961s | +0.748s [88 / 327.3]
5. Andrea Dovizioso ITA Ducati Team (Desmosedici) 1m 29.965s | +0.752s [60 / 334.4]

Moto 2 tyre test

1. Esteve Rabat ESP Marc VDS Racing (Kalex) 1m 32.316s | +3.103s [100 / 274.8]
2. Nico Terol ESP Mapfre Aspar Team (Suter) 1m 33.290s | +4.077s [82 / 274.8]
3. Mika Kallio FIN Marc VDS Racing (Kalex) 1m 33.440s | +4.227s [62 / 273.4]
4. Jordi Torres ESP Mapfre Aspar Team (Suter) 1m 34.000s | +4.787s [56 / 268.7]
 
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Obviously testing isn't representative, but that time must look more positive for Cal/Ducati? I'm quite surprised to be honest. Last year's best time for Phillip Island was a 1:28.108 by Marquez, but I'm not sure if that was a qualifying run or in the race. Edit: in the race, though 68 laps is a longer stint than normal by quite some way.

Still, right direction hopefully.
 
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Like ducati in WSBK, where if the rules hinder their dominance they leave;)

they have a point though... they have spent millions of £ and years of development becoming 'dominant'. to have it all taken away is a massive kick in the teeth

can certainly see why they would be less willing to keep investing.
 
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they have a point though... they have spent millions of £ and years of development becoming 'dominant'. to have it all taken away is a massive kick in the teeth

can certainly see why they would be less willing to keep investing.

I fully understand their reasoning, however you have to keep the sport competitive, otherwise people will stop watching/following/attending races - a bit like F1.
 
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tech 3's Pol Espargaro has broken his collarbone testing over the weekend in Qatar.
Bradl also crashed twice but was ok.

final testing times from the weekend,(no top works teams as they went to Philip island)

1. Aleix Espargaro ESP NGM Forward Racing (Forward-Yamaha) 1m 54.874s (Lap 19/47)
2. Pol Espargaro ESP Monster Yamaha Tech 3 (YZR-M1) 1m 54.907s | +0.033s (25/45)
3. Bradley Smith GBR Monster Yamaha Tech 3 (YZR-M1) 1m 55.027s | +0.153s (15/55)
4. Stefan Bradl GER LCR Honda MotoGP (RC213V) 1m 55.187s | +0.313s (3/40)
5. Alvaro Bautista ESP Go&Fun Honda Gresini (RC213V) 1m 55.232s | +0.358s (8/50)
6. Andrea Iannone ITA Pramac Racing (Desmosedici) 1m 55.518s | +0.644s (29/59)
7. Colin Edwards USA NGM Forward Racing (Forward-Yamaha) 1m 55.978s | +1.104s (24/31)
8. Yonny Hernandez COL Pramac Racing (Desmosedici) 1m 56.056s | +1.182s (33/47)
9. Nicky Hayden USA Drive M7 Aspar (RCV1000R) 1m 56.273s | +1.399s (37/44)
10. Hiroshi Aoyama JPN Drive M7 Aspar (RCV1000R) 1m 57.006s | +2.132s (55/56)
11. Scott Redding GBR Go&Fun Honda Gresini (RCV1000R) 1m 57.009s | +2.135s (25/50)
12. Hector Barbera ESP Avintia Racing (Avintia) 1m 57.142s | +2.268s (5/38)
13. Karel Abraham CZE Cardion AB Motoracing (RCV1000R) 1m 57.342s | +2.468s (28/34)
14. Mike Di Meglio FRA Avintia Racing (Avintia) 1m 57.669s | +2.795s (17/44)
15. Danilo Petrucci ITA IodaRacing Project (ART) 1m 58.086s | +3.212s (42/55)
16. Michael Laverty GBR Paul Bird Motorsport (PBM-ART) 1m 58.555s | +3.681s (16/30)
17. Broc Parkes AUS Paul Bird Motorsport (PBM-ART) 1m 58.971s | +4.097s (6/20)
 
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