MSI 3080 i5 7600k benchmark

Dan4dr · 14 Mar 2021 at 19:45

Evening,

Had my 3080 now for about a month, and if I’m honest it feels abit ropey, performance of war zone and black ops seem to be no better than on my 2070s, actually at the moment it’s almost unplayable 50fps on low settings (80-90 on 2070s). I know I have a slight bottleneck on the CPU but was still expecting an improvement. Tried all drivers, I’m on the latest windows, today I thought I’d try a different game hoping I was just warzones poor optimisation but on assassins creed odyssey I had trouble getting over 45fps in the busy areas of the game on ultra settings, so downloaded 3D Mark and see attached my results, not sure if they are good? Trying to determine whether the GPU needs RMA.

CuriousTomCat · 14 Mar 2021 at 19:59

Well, you do have an old quad-core CPU.

Budget low-cost CPU (in today's terms) paired with an expensive high-end GPU. They`re two extremes.

Dan4dr · 14 Mar 2021 at 20:08

CuriousTomCat said:
Well, you do have an old quad-core CPU.

Budget low-cost CPU (in today's terms) paired with an expensive high-end GPU. They`re two extremes.

Totally get that, but surely would not get this much of a negative impact when compared to the 2070s?

heatonpkmassive · 14 Mar 2021 at 20:10

CuriousTomCat said:
Well, you do have an old quad-core CPU.

Budget low-cost CPU (in today's terms) paired with an expensive high-end GPU. They`re two extremes.

+1

It's your CPU my friend. And yes you would get that negative impact. When I upgraded the 4690k I sold on here recently for the 4790k I also sold on here recently with my 2080, there was a clear difference in smoothness, microstutter etc.

ianbeany · 14 Mar 2021 at 20:10

Your CPU is more than just a "slight" bottleneck buddy

Its a total miss-match and your 3080 is just being wasted in that rig

In fact that CPU will already have been bottlenecking your 2070s

CuriousTomCat · 14 Mar 2021 at 20:14

Dan4dr said:
Totally get that, but surely would not get this much of a negative impact when compared to the 2070s?

This shows Odyssey`s CPU scaling. A quad core CPU only managed 52 FPS @ 720p.
https://overclock3d.net/reviews/software/assassin_s_creed_odyssey_pc_performance_review/7

Even your old 2070 needed 6 cores+ to perform at full speed so a 2060 instead would have saved you money.

heatonpkmassive · 14 Mar 2021 at 20:17

ianbeany said:
Your CPU is more than just a "slight" bottleneck buddy

Its a total miss-match and your 3080 is just being wasted in that rig

In fact that CPU will already have been bottlenecking your 2070s

All very true.

6 core 12 thread seems to be the standard for gamers nowadays, games need those threads, especially the ones you mention in your OP.

Grim5 · 14 Mar 2021 at 20:17

OP, watch this. Now you know that you need a new CPU

BlueInf · 14 Mar 2021 at 20:41

Grim5 said:
OP, watch this. Now you know that you need a new CPU

Or a Radeon?

Grim5 · 14 Mar 2021 at 20:42

BlueInf said:
Or a Radeon?

New cpu is probably cheaper than switching gpu, plus he needs a new cpu anyway quad core isn't god for gaming anymore

BlueInf · 14 Mar 2021 at 20:44

Grim5 said:
New cpu is probably cheaper than switching gpu, plus he needs a new cpu anyway quad core isn't god for gaming anymore

Agree

Dominic-Toretto · 14 Mar 2021 at 21:33

It's your cpu op. I had a 7600k @ 5.2ghz and it was struggling in warzone with 100% usage. Grab an 8 core or above

Dominic-Toretto · 14 Mar 2021 at 21:34

Grim5 said:
New cpu is probably cheaper than switching gpu, plus he needs a new cpu anyway quad core isn't god for gaming anymore

He's on an old chipset, not worth going to an i7, will probably have to upgrade his mobo.

heatonpkmassive · 14 Mar 2021 at 21:45

Squidward said:
He's on an old chipset, not worth going to an i7, will probably have to upgrade his mobo.

No probably about it, he owns a 3080. New build required to get the most out of that card.

humbug · 14 Mar 2021 at 22:55

You need a better CPU, that's where your problem is.

Purgatory · 15 Mar 2021 at 01:13

As others have said it's a CPU bottleneck at lower resolutions. Here is something to cheer you up a bit :-

Best update for you is a 5800x cpu and a X570 or B550 motherboard to get the best out of that 3080.

Dan4dr · 15 Mar 2021 at 08:13

Thank you everyone for your advice and feedback so with a £400 budget, what CPU would you recommend? I only use the computer for gaming?

C64 · 15 Mar 2021 at 08:27

even 6 cores enough its night and day warzone on my old 4 core vs 6 core 3600
on 4 core was a choppy mess just on the title screen I'd go for 8 core at this stage though even though a 3600 would see you alright may as well go 8 core

KompuKare · 15 Mar 2021 at 12:44

Grim5 said:
New cpu is probably cheaper than switching gpu, plus he needs a new cpu anyway quad core isn't god for gaming anymore

Looks like quad cores have gone from being gods, to semi-gods and are now pawns or serfs!

Gray2233 · 15 Mar 2021 at 12:56

Dan4dr said:
Thank you everyone for your advice and feedback so with a £400 budget, what CPU would you recommend? I only use the computer for gaming?

Assuming you can reuse your RAM?

My basket at Overclockers UK:

1 x Intel Core i5-10600K 4.10GHz (Comet Lake) Socket LGA1200 Processor - Retail= £218.99
1 x MSI Z490-A Pro (Socket LGA 1200) DDR4 ATX Motherboard= £149.99

Total: £368.98 (includes shipping: £0.00)

You could save £60-100 by dropping down to the 10400F if you're not interested in overclocking. I'm not 100% clued up on Intel motherboards so should you go this route I'd ask for second opinions on the mobo.

AMD:

My basket at Overclockers UK:

1 x Gigabyte B550M AORUS ELITE (AMD AM4) B550 Micro-ATX Motherboard= £89.99
1 x AMD Ryzen 5 5600X Six Core 4.6GHz (Socket AM4) Processor - Retail= £329.99

Total: £419.98 (includes shipping: £0.00)

Alternatively you could save £140 + by picking up a 3600 instead of the 5600X, honestly at 1440P or above you're probably not going to notice a difference. If you do go AMD you might want to consider your RAM, even if you already have DDR4 Ryzen very much likes and needs fast memory to see the best results. Ideally you want 3200 as a minimum, although if you're on 3000 you'll be fine -- if your RAM is slower than that you could see if you can OC it.

The above are both 6c12t solutions, you could probably fit 8c16t into your budget, but whether or not it's worthwhile is another matter.

With the AMD option you have a better platform and easier future upgrades, it's the route I would go personally.