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My new motor, chip?

Discussion in 'Motors' started by Oakesy2001uk, 25 May 2006.

  1. Oakesy2001uk

    Mobster

    Joined: 7 Sep 2005

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    Its a 04 reg 1.3 CDTI corsa SXI, 70 bhp, 125 ftlbs. it is ok, just a cost saving exersis for me, plan to have it around a year.
    its a bit of a downgrade for me, but great for economy, handles well, not too sloppy and stops well. Apparently a chip will give me 20bhp and alot more torque. I might be able to live with it a bit longer if I had this.
    On the off chance, anyone know anyone who has chipped one of these? I would rather have a tune map done, but the only things I can find are boxes like this...
    http://powerklick.co.uk/vauxhall.html

    do they just knock up the boost a bit and fiddle the map or what. is it going to damage it in a year? not really to sure how they work.
    Can anyone reccomend a particular company? dont even know if the liitle 1.3 could take it! seems to be a good engine though, nice and smooth.
     
  2. Scottland

    Capodecina

    Joined: 18 Oct 2002

    Posts: 15,264

    Location: North Wales

    Remaps are better than the tuning boxes and chips, from what I've been told. The only place I know of are www.angeltuning.co.uk, I was recommended them a while back but never used them myself so wouldn't like to say if they were good or not.
     
  3. Lithium

    Hitman

    Joined: 29 Oct 2002

    Posts: 807

    a standard "remap" is just copying their code over the current software, its almost never custom. Check if its a physical chip being installed or a remap via software, both do the same thing but a remap is a bit easier/ probably better insurance wise. (indetectable)
     
  4. joilet

    Wise Guy

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    Location: South GLOUCESTER

    chippeduk.com

    i used them and noticed gains. think i paid £130 for a live remap.
     
  5. burns

    Mobster

    Joined: 1 Nov 2002

    Posts: 3,709

    Does this tend to hurt the fuel economy? I'd imagine it would if it's getting more power out of the engine, but I guess you just don't put your foot down as much.
     
  6. Bug One

    Capodecina

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    Couldn't you just get a manual boost controller.
     
  7. Oakesy2001uk

    Mobster

    Joined: 7 Sep 2005

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    I think the economy will probably stay about the same as I wont have to rag it as much. keep the reccomendations coming guys. £130 sounds fantastic, I'll have a look at them.
     
  8. Oakesy2001uk

    Mobster

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    dont know about manuel boost controller, might be wortha look, there not exactly common so I presume not that many people have done it.
    They also do a 90 bhp 1.3 cdti in the astra, so I presume it can take alot more, wonder what the difference is between the engines?
     
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  9. GT3

    Sgarrista

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    Cool, what did they do to the suspension setup on the CDTI compared to the rest of the range?
     
  10. paradigm

    Caporegime

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    Location: Staffordshire

    If this car is a "cost saving exercise", why bother? Just run it with a light right-foot and get rid of it as soon as possible?
     
  11. James_N

    Sgarrista

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    exactly, i dont think anything will make a difference, it will still be dog slow :( i really dont know why people buy cars like this lol
     
  12. Oakesy2001uk

    Mobster

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    yea, that was my thaught, just thaught I may be able to put up with it a bit longer, but there is no point in spending £300 on it when I am just trying to pay off my finance ASAP so I can have a car I actually want.

    When I said handles well I meant id dosent roll everywhere, the sterring is very vague and too light, and it dosent really handle well, just alot better than I thaught it would.
    I got it because it does 70mpg and my mate swapped (even though this is worth a bit more than my focus was). I think I'll leave it and get rid ASAP unless there is a cheaper way to make it a bit more spritely this should save me enough to get sorted by towards the end of the year, then I can get something proper! :D
     
  13. Morba

    Caporegime

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    why didnt you just buy a much cheaper car instead of the corsa?
     
  14. James_N

    Sgarrista

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    How much did you pay for the corsa? the amount you pay in the first place for something like a diesel corsa, will far outweigh the saving you will make by running something that does 30mpg for instance.
     
  15. Oakesy2001uk

    Mobster

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    I am well aware of that and I dont do anywhere near enough miles to justify a diesel, I wouldnt buy one, but the corsa is worth more than my 02 reg focus was and I did a straight swap (hope it makes sense now), also I stripped the alloys suspension exhaust lights and stereo out of my focus, so I am in a much better position as I can sell those. Its also still in warrenty and needs no MOT until next summer (when it will be long gone).
    The corsa will be worth more when I come to sell it to get the car I actually want later on in the year, I'm aiming to have the finance paid by november/december, just thaught a chip would help me live with it, looking at 90bhp instaed of 70 and a healthy torque increase,I suppose I will have to lump it for a few months!
    It will be worth it when I get my teg/LCR/mx5(turbo)/??? you can all help me with that one later in the year!
     
  16. paradigm

    Caporegime

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    Oh hell yeah, you post a thread about an LCR and i'll be straight in there offering advice :D
     
  17. Oakesy2001uk

    Mobster

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    I think its emerging as favourite anyway mate so you may be my guru later in the year.

    Back on the corsa front, is there any way of upping the bosst a little, or should I just either chip it or not bother, the chip I'm looking at from dieseltuner.com says it does not alter the boost at all. I think the sensible option is not bother, but I'm rarely sensible! lol
     
  18. paradigm

    Caporegime

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    Any decent chip or remap (ie one that isn't a bodge) is going to cost upwards of £300~. You are most likely going to gain what, 10-15BHP and maybe 20NM of torque. Is that really worth it for £300? Its £300 that could be put towards your insurance on something decent :)

    I'm umming and aaring about revoing mine for around £500, and that will get me an extra 40bhp, and an extra 100NM of torque.
     
  19. Oakesy2001uk

    Mobster

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    its apparently 20bhp and 30 ftlbs for £210 which would be a usefull increase on 70 bhp! but I am trying to save money to get rid of this car
     
  20. [TW]Fox

    Man of Honour

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    I'm going to get flamed for this but oh well.

    How exactly is downgrading from a nice 1.6 Focus to a horrid 2 year newer Corsa which probably involved you paying out a more more to buy it a 'cost saving excercise'?

    The Focus is cheap to insure and cheap to run and the extra fuel economy of the Corsa will save you virtually nothing at all - it's not is if you were doing 25,000 a year in a Skyline GT-R and the cost was crippling you.

    And I generally worry if, as a Focus driver, you think the Corsa handles well. I have driven a CTDi Corsa and the handling was so bad it was actually funny.

    Seems such a shame, you had such a nice car, now you have a dire one, sorry.

    Oh, and back on topic, don't chip it, waste of time, thanks.