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[Smoogels]

TLDR: Issues almost disappear with AMD GPU! I assume it's 100% NVIDIA driver or card failure.

I've tested games with AMD Radeon HD7770 GPU.
I'll be write Update 5 tomorrow with more details.
If you want some info before full Update 5 change-log — you can check MSI AB .hml logs recorded with AMD.

Hardware Monitor logs: https://drive.google.com/open?id=1riQbrv0E7QhWGAoXxnlmvmkmmdWMRDb7

Important Edit:
I have already returned to NVIDIA GTX 1080 Ti and tested Team Fortress 2. Everything was smooth and without spikes BUT at the end of last log recording frametime started jumping every 0.1-0.5 sec to constant 18.7 FPS! Something really goes wrong.

Team Fortress 2 logs (GTX 1080 Ti):
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1GgXC-kbaqWJO8WBgn5T4HdH5oOqT2YuB

Extreme spikes at the end of logging (screenshot):
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1ZZISlFClcQMHjSmAcZu9GeSgbxAuIl2p

Intrestingly I saw a post the otherday on the Nvidia forums which mentioned that stutter improved on a 980ti and 7850 compared to a 1080.

https://i.imgur.com/4k9SjKl.png

I also have a Pascal and have been stuttering for months but can't really seem to solve it. It's awful and I don't really play games now because of it.

I popped in a 290 and it was very smooth. Games actually felt better to play because it didn't have huge stutter every few seconds.

Although I don't think TF2 is necessarily a good game to test for stutter. I've personally had odd stutters on that game ever since they went crazy putting hundreds of hats in it across a range of systems.

 

[Knower]

Intrestingly I saw a post the otherday on the Nvidia forums which mentioned that stutter improved on a 980ti and 7850 compared to a 1080.

https://i.imgur.com/4k9SjKl.png

I also have a Pascal and have been stuttering for months but can't really seem to solve it. It's awful and I don't really play games now because of it.

I popped in a 290 and it was very smooth. Games actually felt better to play because it didn't have huge stutter every few seconds.

Although I don't think TF2 is necessarily a good game to test for stutter. I've personally had odd stutters on that game ever since they went crazy putting hundreds of hats in it across a range of systems.

I saw 980 Ti & 7850 results. No comments. Retarded NVIDIA...

What Pascal do you have? 1070, 1080, 1080 Ti, Titan XP? In what games do you notice stuttering?

 

[Knower]

When games drop to 5 FPS what are the clocks on your CPU and video cards core and memory reporting in afterburner?

I remember a few years ago, I was having the same problem with ARMA 2

It can handle min settings on those games at 720P, it is around 2-3x as powerful as the Intel GPU.

i remember back in the day mine 770 4 gig developed some spikes stutter i did everything and i couldn't fixed it at the end i just rma the card the new one didn't have the issue

UPDATE 5

I've already done all the necessary tests in new Windows 10 1803 (17134.1) Build. There are no performance improvements even with new "Ultimate Performance" power plan.

UEFI Main Settings:
- BIOS 1301 update
- "Sync All Cores" at [47]
- XMP at 3,200 MHz
- PCIE3_4 and M.2_2 slots at X4 speed
- Custom fans curve and disabled unnecessary EXT FANS
- Disabled SpeedShift/SpeedStep, C-states, Spread Spectrum, Fast Boot and ASUS MultiCore Enhancement

Windows 10 1803 global Google Drive folder with all results: https://drive.google.com/open?id=1VI-D62fRZ2AfNZ2NZqKtFXAEoM5tibdJ

MSI Afterburner Hardware Monitor games logs: https://drive.google.com/open?id=1z_EPdYovV_swrAm3El-gRJ87RZtrXvq3

Windows and other settings: https://drive.google.com/open?id=14a6vfGqZhDp6z6V-CFoBdpHR161pXKy8

All diagnostic info including GPUView Merged.etl trace file, MSINFO32 and Speccy snapshot: https://drive.google.com/open?id=1h3oCMaw5_odOSO1972Tqn6_RwYZz6vy3


If you can or know how to correctly analyze all the data, please, help me find the culprit of these frametime spikes and stuttering. Thank you a lot!

 

[Freddie1980]

Ok I can't read any of the files you have uploaded. .hml?? What is that?

Just look at the readings in Afterburner when the FPS drops and report back. What is your CPU and GPU doing? Clocks drop? Usage fallen away?

A lot of the games you have tested are older titles that don't support more then 2 threads so I would suspect there is some sort of CPU bottlenecking going on and the Witcher 3 has lots of NPC's in town/city areas which hammer the CPU. I don't know about PUBG but it is demanding on just about every setup.

 

[Knower]

Ok I can't read any of the files you have uploaded. .hml?? What is that?

Just look at the readings in Afterburner when the FPS drops and report back. What is your CPU and GPU doing? Clocks drop? Usage fallen away?

A lot of the games you have tested are older titles that don't support more then 2 threads so I would suspect there is some sort of CPU bottlenecking going on and the Witcher 3 has lots of NPC's in town/city areas which hammer the CPU. I don't know about PUBG but it is demanding on just about every setup.

1. Try to rename .hml file and it should open. I also can't open it after moving to another folder. It's sh*tty MSI AB bag (oh, sorry, feature =)).

2. GPU downclocks and No Load Limit changes to "1" due to reduced load while stutters occur. Maybe, I should try K-Boost to pin GPU clocks at one level.

3. No matter. I tried to disabled Threaded Optimization — wasn't helpful.

 

[Freddie1980]

1. Try to rename .hml file and it should open. I also can't open it after moving to another folder. It's sh*tty MSI AB bag (oh, sorry, feature =)).

2. GPU downclocks and No Load Limit changes to "1" due to reduced load while stutters occur. Maybe, I should try K-Boost to pin GPU clocks at one level.

3. No matter. I tried to disabled Threaded Optimization — wasn't helpful.

Well it looks like we may have discovered the source of your problems. No load limit value of 1 means you card is hitting it's power limit as defined in the vbios, you can change this in Afterburner and increase the power limit. If would appear the vbios is down clocking your card to aggressively to reduce power hence why you get stutters followed by super fast performance.

You might a also want to read this - https://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=80653

 

[Knower]

Well it looks like we may have discovered the source of your problems. No load limit value of 1 means you card is hitting it's power limit as defined in the vbios, you can change this in Afterburner and increase the power limit. If would appear the vbios is down clocking your card to aggressively to reduce power hence why you get stutters followed by super fast performance.

You might a also want to read this - https://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=80653

Nope, wait. I also use 150% Power Limit in AB, it's not a problem in this case. Also when NoLoadLimit occur there is no PowerLimit in AB graphs. Maybe I should use EVGA K-Boost feature or try to hack my VBIOS.

 

[Freddie1980]

Nope, wait. I also use 150% Power Limit in AB, it's not a problem in this case. Also when NoLoadLimit occur there is no PowerLimit in AB graphs. Maybe I should use EVGA K-Boost feature or try to hack my VBIOS.

You shouldn't have to hack the vbios just to get to act normally. Have a look on Gigabytes website and see if there are any bios updates, it might also be worth opening a support ticket with them pointing out the above (where the GPU clocks drop and no load limit sets to 1).

 

[Knower]

You shouldn't have to hack the vbios just to get to act normally. Have a look on Gigabytes website and see if there are any bios updates, it might also be worth opening a support ticket with them pointing out the above (where the GPU clocks drop and no load limit sets to 1).

I finally recorded all HM logs in CS GO & Fortnite, also have retested all other games with older & beta NVIDIA drivers (385.69, 385.12 BETA & 382.53).

Bad news:
1. There are no noticeable improvements in eliminating stutter using any other drivers. GTA 5, TW3 and PUBG (for e.g. only).
2. There are SOME annoying spikes in Fortnite BR but they're not so frequent.
HM Logs:
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1ULxP2IRVD-esOUIESc9gHVo5FOlXGIn-

Good news:
1. There are NO frametime spikes in CS:GO offline battle WITHOUT any bots. But there're noticeable in Community Servers even with low ping, maybe, it's server or player amount related. Don't know what's wrong with online CS playing. Tried Steam version and pirated one, no changes in performance.
HM Logs:
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1BaoQVGbbNPg1awHhGfvD6YzFcqbmrIrM

2. NVIDIA driver 385.69 (Sep, 2017) helps a bit to reduce spikes in GTA 5 and PUBG. Frametime graph is more smooth. Maybe it's random event and driver isn't related to this temporary frametime "smoothness". You can compare logs with different drivers and make conclusion am I right or not.
PUBG HM Logs with 397.31 driver:
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1NN8FuX05oKRXXWyoE-0wLsG10hJDUgho
PUBG HM Logs with 385.69 driver:
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1gQlE3ZD6UFfhcJrSmocx1FUyUqs-EgdX

Questions:
1. What do you think about all these tests?
2. Can NVIDIA drivers be the only one culprit by following the new results? Or it's more game related?
3. What another working fixes should I try to make a workaround if it's game related?

P.S.
I play GTA 5 single player only, not multiplayer.

 

[Knower]

Does somebody here? =/

 

[MiKeOnE10110]

Does somebody here? =/

Mate it sounds like you've done everything in terms of software monitoring but at the end of the day you're going to have to find the problem by trial and error hardware swapping. I would find someone with the same gpu and test theirs in your machine. Same thing happens try another piece of hardware.

 

[Native7i]

Do you have any spare monitor?
I haven’t read thread fully, but I had same kind of issue with the monitor I used. Sometimes even pc refused to turn on with that monitor hooked up

 

[Knower]

Do you have any spare monitor?
I haven’t read thread fully, but I had same kind of issue with the monitor I used. Sometimes even pc refused to turn on with that monitor hooked up

Yeah, I've already tested my rig with 60Hz monitor, no changes.

 

[Meddling-Monk]

Bit of a long shot, but I recently found myself with this issue (after the 1803 update for Windows 10), you might want to give it a shot.

Have you got Superfetch enabled? If so, try disabling it and try again.

 

[Knower]

Bit of a long shot, but I recently found myself with this issue (after the 1803 update for Windows 10), you might want to give it a shot.

Have you got Superfetch enabled? If so, try disabling it and try again.

Tried, no positive changes.

 

[fatehasfans]

Any progress bud? I'm the same guy from the Nvidia forum - I have the same issues and similar specs.

 

[Coolasmoo]

Try this fix. I have been using it for a few months now and don't get any stuttering.


https://www.reddit.com/r/Windows10/...by_memory_issue_causing_stutters_on_creators/

 

[Knower]

Any progress bud? I'm the same guy from the Nvidia forum - I have the same issues and similar specs.

Hi,
Well, I found that 80 % is the games issue themselves.
For bad-coded games there's only one helpful stuff - FPS lock/cap with RTSS. E.g. in PUBG w/o FPS cap I have frequent frame time spikes, but with <143 FPS cap there is pretty consistent & stable frame time graph. Though, there're huge spikes when matchmaking and landing but it's completely due to ****** BlueHole (PUBG Corp.) codding.
Do you have similar issues on your PC?
And what specs dooes your rig have?

 

[Knower]

Try this fix. I have been using it for a few months now and don't get any stuttering.


https://www.reddit.com/r/Windows10/...by_memory_issue_causing_stutters_on_creators/

Already tried... No matter, even with CU 1607 I had the same issues as with 1703/09 & 1803.

 

[Elfmeister.]

I'll throw 50p's worth in.

After reading your write ups, my original thought was clean power but I notice you're running a UPS?, have you tried it without this and direct to the wall?

My second thought is, are you always installing the OS to the same drive each time?, also have you tried running the drives and GPU in different slots?

Last thought, failing all that would be to buy another motherboard, quick swaps and go from there.