New to pc gaming

[Quartz]

How many gamers need 10Gb LAN though ?

How many gamers need even gigabit LAN? The thing is it's not the pure gamers who need 10 Gb but those who do work as well as game. Architects, engineers, researchers, and many more. Those who have servers / NAS boxes and the like. The thing is, 10 Gb Ethernet gives you about the speed of a local drive, so it makes sense to keep your precious data on a separate box where it's safer. And maybe they have more than one workstation, in which case having their data centralised on a NAS / server makes even more sense.

Also you don't need pcie 4.0 for capture cards either, as you can get them in USB format,

Maybe, but it's nice to have the choice, isn't it?

 

[lee32uk]

How many gamers need even gigabit LAN? The thing is it's not the pure gamers who need 10 Gb but those who do work as well as game. Architects, engineers, researchers, and many more. Those who have servers / NAS boxes and the like. The thing is, 10 Gb Ethernet gives you about the speed of a local drive, so it makes sense to keep your precious data on a separate box where it's safer. And maybe they have more than one workstation, in which case having their data centralised on a NAS / server makes even more sense.



Maybe, but it's nice to have the choice, isn't it?

His opening post says he wants a gaming pc, so I am going to assume he is not using it for work stuff.

As for capture cards I don't think they even need pcie 3.0 x 16. Ones like the Elgato 4K60 PRO only need a pcie x4 slot.

 

[Quartz]

Ones like the Elgato 4K60 PRO only need a pcie x4 slot.

But they still drop the GPU slot to x8.

 

[lee32uk]

But they still drop the GPU slot to x8.

Depends on what board you are using and what other components are installed. Some boards have 3 x pcie 3.0 x16 slots. So you could use the 3rd one for a capture card if needed without affecting the top slot, as you would be getting lanes from the chipset. So on the Asus Z490 XII Hero for example, as long as you don't have 2 x M.2 SSD's installed then you are fine. I am not saying he should go intel by the way, just saying that the lack of pcie 4.0 isn't a big deal. If it was my money it would go to AMD.

 

[Mr j galley]

In terms of gaming performance not really.

You could get a 12 core cpu (3900x) rather than 8 core 3700x.

@Quartz has got it spot on really, like I said 32gb of ram.

Looks like there's going to be abit of await on the 3080

 

[mickyflinn]

Looks like there's going to be abit of await on the 3080

True, you could get a stop gap gpu until you can get a 3080.

 

[Mr j galley]

True, you could get a stop gap gpu until you can get a 3080.

Any ideas what to get?

 

[mickyflinn]

Any ideas what to get?

You don't want to spending lots something like a 1650 super Would do.

There is a b grade 1650 super in the b grade section at overclockers which I think you could get for £120 if you call them up and make an offer.

B grade items only have 90 day warrenty.

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/b-gr...ddr6-pci-express-graphics-card-bg-02k-zt.html

MSI are doing cashback promotion on certain motherboard and ryzen cpu , take a look.

https://uk.msi.com/Promotion/back-to-school-2020#AMD-Motherboard

 

[mickyflinn]

Just put the correct link for the msi cashback but here it is again.

https://uk.msi.com/Promotion/back-to-school-2020#AMD-Motherboard

You could get £45 if you go with @Quartz build.

 

[Mr j galley]

Here's an on-budget start including monitor:

My basket at Overclockers UK:

• 1 x MSI MAG B550 Tomahawk (AMD AM4) B550 ATX Motherboard= £159.95
• 1 x AMD Ryzen 7 3700X Eight Core 4.4GHz (Socket AM4) Processor - Retail= £338.99
• 1 x Asus GeForce RTX 3080 TUF Gaming 10GB GDDR6X PCI-Express Graphics Card= £689.99
• 1 x Super Flower Leadex III 850W 80 PLUS Gold Modular Power Supply - Black= £112.99
• 1 x Corsair Vengeance LPX Black 16GB (2x8GB) 3600 MHz AMD Ryzen Tuned DDR4 Memory Dual Kit= £74.99
• 1 x WD Blue SN550 1TB NVME M.2 2280 PCIe Gen3 Solid State Drive (WDS100T2B0C)= £109.99
• 1 x Fractal Design Meshify C Blackout Midi Tower Case - Black Light Tempered Glass= £109.99
• 1 x Scythe SCFM-2000 FUMA 2 Dual Fan CPU Cooler - 2x120 mm= £47.99
• 1 x Iiyama G-Master GB3461WQSU-B1 34" 3440x1440 IPS 144hz 1ms HDR Freesync Ultrawide Gaming Monitor= £398.99

Total: £2,064.69 (includes shipping: £20.82)
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Again, you may wish to drop to a 3070 and new Ryzen CPUs are imminent - if they don't do a paper launch.

Well I've got all part exc

Here's an on-budget start including monitor:

My basket at Overclockers UK:

• 1 x MSI MAG B550 Tomahawk (AMD AM4) B550 ATX Motherboard= £159.95
• 1 x AMD Ryzen 7 3700X Eight Core 4.4GHz (Socket AM4) Processor - Retail= £338.99
• 1 x Asus GeForce RTX 3080 TUF Gaming 10GB GDDR6X PCI-Express Graphics Card= £689.99
• 1 x Super Flower Leadex III 850W 80 PLUS Gold Modular Power Supply - Black= £112.99
• 1 x Corsair Vengeance LPX Black 16GB (2x8GB) 3600 MHz AMD Ryzen Tuned DDR4 Memory Dual Kit= £74.99
• 1 x WD Blue SN550 1TB NVME M.2 2280 PCIe Gen3 Solid State Drive (WDS100T2B0C)= £109.99
• 1 x Fractal Design Meshify C Blackout Midi Tower Case - Black Light Tempered Glass= £109.99
• 1 x Scythe SCFM-2000 FUMA 2 Dual Fan CPU Cooler - 2x120 mm= £47.99
• 1 x Iiyama G-Master GB3461WQSU-B1 34" 3440x1440 IPS 144hz 1ms HDR Freesync Ultrawide Gaming Monitor= £398.99

Total: £2,064.69 (includes shipping: £20.82)
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Again, you may wish to drop to a 3070 and new Ryzen CPUs are imminent - if they don't do a paper launch.

Well I got all parts apart from the graphics card which I can't decide on

 

[Quartz]

Well I got all parts apart from the graphics card which I can't decide on

AMD are announcing their new GPUs in a month. Otherwise, try to snag a Founders Edition 3080.