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*****Official BBQ Thread - Suns out, Buns out!*****

Discussion in 'La Cuisine' started by Psymonkee, 4 Jan 2017.

  1. SPG

    Soldato

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    You could just buy a Kamado style barbicue. and do both very easily. You might find one for your budget.
     
  2. dl8860

    Mobster

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    Location: Surrey

    You are aware that kettles can function as perfectly decent low n slow cooker though right? A weber can easily be set up for indirect heat
     
  3. BlueMerle

    Hitman

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    Location: Texas

    It can be done but it's nowhere near as good as an offset smoker.... not even close. Indirect is not the same as low n slow imo, and the results bear that out.
     
  4. 200sols

    Soldato

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    That isnt the definition of BBQing either. The term BBQ encompasses all sorts of cooking over coals and gas outside, it isn't just confined to low n slow cooking, at least here in the UK that would be called smoking more often.
    Many would disagree with your claims about offset smokers as well, bullet smokers, ugly drums or even a kamodo style are easier and cheaper to use.
     
  5. dl8860

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    He did mention a language barrier (more cultural I guess) in his first sentence, so I think you're being a bit fussy. I understand the Americans's desire to distinguish between BBQ and grilling, it makes sense and it works. We just have a different convention in the UK.
     
  6. TheBrooder

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    Location: Cognac, France

    Are the Weber kettles much better than generic kettle bbq's? I guess they maintain a more stable temperature?!
     
  7. Street

    Sgarrista

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    Location: Liverpool

    Generally build quality and warranty. I've had my Master Touch for years now. It gets used all year round and is always left outside. Apart from where the missus decided to knock it over on the patio it while moving it, it looks as good as new. I had an el cheapo before this one and it didn't last long at all.
     
  8. SoliD

    Capodecina

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    Location: Portsmouth

    That and they hold their value so if you do decide to get something new you can get a chunk of our money back.
     
  9. TheBrooder

    Mobster

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    Location: Cognac, France

    One last question (for now) - Is the Weber 47 as good as the 57 for long and slow cooking or is the size difference worth the extra cash (best I can find is still €100 difference)
     
  10. Liquid_Entity

    Soldato

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    Just be sure to check the differing sizes but also the different models in the range. There are 47 and 57 compact models, then the 47 and 57 original and then theres the 57 premium
     
  11. TheBrooder

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    I'm looking at the non-compact, non-premium models. Think I'll just go for a 47 for now.
     
  12. oneilldo

    Wise Guy

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    I would go for the 57. Can never have enough space and if you want you will be able to get more accessories for it such as rotisserie etc
     
  13. ganesh

    Wise Guy

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    I would strongly advise to go for the 57cm, the 47 is much smaller and you will struggle with indirect cooking.
     
  14. Psymonkee

    Capodecina

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    This! Go 57 premium and worry about the money you've saved not having to buy another BBQ 2 weeks later.
     
  15. Grasshopper

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    Location: Bristol

    Another reason to got for the 57 over the 47 is there is a much wider range of accessories that fit the 57. There's no real advantage to the 47 as it doesn't really use any less fuel to get up to temperature.
     
  16. TheBrooder

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    I did wonder if that was the case. I'm really attracted to low and slow cooking so I'll get a 57 - I'm trying to resist the master touch and stay with a Weber original E-5730 with enclosed ash container (can be very windy here). Just looking to see if there are any offers at the moment but a lot of places are out of stock for now.
     
  17. Grasshopper

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    Ive got a 57 bar-b-kettle without the one touch system and its a pain to set the dials to the right temperature and clean it out so I'd defiantly recommend the one touch system. I dont think its worth getting the master touch unless you really want the gbs system. I just use normal cast iron pans and pizza stones direct on the grill. Ive also never found a need for the charcoal baskets and use the snake method for low and slow. Ive done pulled pork, ribs etc on mine no problem. The weber world at Riverside garden center has some deals on at the moment and is well thought of in the BBQ facebooks groups.
     
  18. michty_me

    Mobster

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    I'm currently looking to get rid of another cheapish B&Q job and purchase something that will last me a good deal longer.

    I think I've whittled it down to either the Weber premium 5775 or the New Kamado Joe Kettle which looks intriguing. The full Kamado Joes are too pricey for my liking so going to hold off and look for reviews on the KJ Kettle when it is released (Next month apparently),

    I mainly just do the usual BBQ grill food but would like to try doing slow cooks and get the temps up for doing pizza too. Any thoughts on those two?
     
  19. TheBrooder

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    Ah thanks for that, I did wonder what the practical advantages were. The differences appear minor but seem to make a lot of difference for quality of life like cleaning, maintaining temp, etc.
     
  20. Grasshopper

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    This link gives a good overview of the differences. Not that I'm trying to plug riverside its just the store I've always used. wowbbq is meant to be good for online sales as well.

    https://www.riversidegardencentre.co.uk/blog/weber-57cm-barbecues-differences/