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Old shape Lexus IS 200 Sport or New Golf GTI

Discussion in 'Motors' started by nam, 21 Jan 2006.

  1. nam

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    Hi,

    I am considering part exchanging my 53 plate yaris t-sport for either the lexus is200 or a new shape golf GTI.

    Question is Which car will hold its residual value longer over 2-3 years ? and how much should i get for my car which has only 12K miles and was registered in 2004 ?
     
  2. Fusion

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    You're thinking of dropping 18k on the old shape IS? :eek:

    I thought you'd be comparing the new IS with the current Golf GTI.
     
  3. nam

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    New IS is 26K, i am trying to get the best avaliable p/x on my current car so i won't have to spend that amount
     
  4. Fusion

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    New IS 250 is £22,400 on the road, 220D is £22,200 and they're prices straight from Lexus, before you consider brokers and dealer discounts. Just think that it's a lot of money for the old shape. The Golf will hold its value better, for sure.
     
  5. Oracle

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    I'm really not a fan of the IS's interior, but then I'm not a fan of the new MK5 golf interior either!, other than that, I also feel that the IS's are underpowered for what they are.
     
  6. nam

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    i did go to the local dealer and all new is models shown were at 26-32K, maybe down to the extras that were included. Either way its above my budget. I did think the Golf will hold its value better but is that down to the particular model golf you buy i.e GTI rather than basic model ?
     
  7. Fusion

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    Generally VW's have good residuals considering they're mass market. What Car's depreciation index reckons the GTI will keep 64% of its list price (£19,995) after 3 years, which is priddy decent. Even the under powered 1.4 FSI Golf keeps an estimated 58% of its list price when its initial 3 years are up.
     
  8. Velocity

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    GTI without a doubt!
     
  9. Freefaller

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    The Mk5 GTi is not bad and the lexus is a little more "gangster" but I dunno, the IS's are too bad, plus they are RWD which is an advantage. However, having been as a passenger in both, the VW is quicker, but the IS250 felt much more luxurious and comfortable.
     
  10. Hate

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    one of my jap car mags has an IS200 with the supra twin turbo engine shoehorned in running 600BHP...

    i want it
     
  11. nam

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    The lexus is shown above was on the last of the old shape so has all the options, sat nav etc,rear parking sensors. I don't think the golf gti even comes close with std kit. . So GTI will most likely be 22K with leather, rear parking etc..

    Does anyone know if i should be pushing the dealer to get more for my part exchange or should i be trying to get more of a discount on the new car ?
     
  12. [TW]Fox

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    Why don't you spend your £18k on a decent small exec - you could afford a really quite nice 330d Sport or something.
     
  13. Morba

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    the shape of the old is200 is very nice, was tempted by one before i bought the focus.
    not been in the new gti so cant compare it.

    thought about a new focus st?
     
  14. nam

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    i have not been able to find a decent petrol BMW for under 18K with low mileage (under 20K) and is less than 2 years old. BMW's tend to be overpriced for the std kit they come with. Atm its either lexus or golf GTI.
     
  15. nam

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    Have looked at focus ST, excellent features for the price (although Still awaiting a test drive from a local dealer). Only concerb is depreciation. Ford will depreciate quicker than Golf and lexus and may only be worth 30% of inital value after 3 years.. :(
     
  16. Fusion

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    Why must it come with less than 20,000 miles? :confused:

    There are loads of 3 and 5 series you'll be able to bag for your budget.
     
  17. Vertigo1

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    You've said that depreciation is a concern yet you're not prepared to consider anything with more than 20k miles? With a low initial mileage, whatever you add to that during your ownership will have a far more pronounced effect on residual value than it would if the car had a higher mileage to start with.
     
  18. Morba

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    some fords ie mondeos.
    look at 3 year old RS and see wether its now selling for 30% of original price ;]
     
  19. nam

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    never trusted higher mileage cars, just the way i am. Ideally like to have a car with under 10K mileage which i can keep for 2 years and then sell-on and still get a very good return
     
  20. nam

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    you don't own a Ford RS do you ? , from what i read at ffoc forums they believe the ST will be at 8K after 2 Years. :(