Other than Chief Goalkick Generator....

placeholder · 24 Apr 2011 at 20:16

Tummy said:
It's not really whats happening is it?

Gibson isn't a bad player, there are far worse out there.

I'm all up for giving the younger players a game, but I don't think a one off would do them any good in a very important game at the end of the season.

Fergie knows what he's doing.

I personally, would expect to see some of the younger player given a chance next season as I hope United will have a big clear out in the summer.

Of course SAF knows what he is doing. Im not doubting that for a minute. However you notice the disappearance of Obertan and Bebe from the first team picture based on the fact that they were totally honking every time they got a chance?

Im just questioning why Gibson can be equally shocking (and he was yesterday) and yet it doesnt seem to stunt his progress in the same way.

placeholder · 24 Apr 2011 at 20:19

Shamikebab said:
I can't help but feel Macheda is gone, sounds like he's been pretty crap in Italy (1 in 14 ) and he's never been much of a scorer for us. Such a shame, but it feels like he hasn't developed since he came into the team. Perhapos one more loan at an EPL club next season, would like to see Welbeck and Cleverley stay though.

I think there are issues about Machedas attitude. I'll say no more for fear for being derided for it but he may haqve thought he "made it" before he actually did.

I thought Cleverley looked ****-hot last preseason and was unlucky not to be part of the squad this season.

Tummy · 24 Apr 2011 at 20:21

placeholder said:
Of course SAF knows what he is doing. Im not doubting that for a minute. However you notice the disappearance of Obertan and Bebe from the first team picture based on the fact that they were totally honking every time they got a chance?

Im just questioning why Gibson can be equally shocking (and he was yesterday) and yet it doesnt seem to stunt his progress in the same way.

Bebe has looked very raw when I've seen him play, too raw for a first team and ObiWan didn't looked quite up to speed, he looked like a very light weight Ronaldo, all tricks no end product blah blah, not in terms of ability.

Fergie does know what he's doing which is probably why Gibson is in the squad and not those

placeholder said:
I think there are issues about Machedas attitude. I'll say no more for fear for being derided for it but he may haqve thought he "made it" before he actually did.

I thought Cleverley looked ****-hot last preseason and was unlucky not to be part of the squad this season.

Cleverley certainly did and he's looked good at Wigan (lol) but I'm quite looking forward to see what he can do in a much better side and given what he's learnt this season

placeholder · 24 Apr 2011 at 20:42

Tummy said:
Bebe has looked very raw when I've seen him play, too raw for a first team and ObiWan didn't looked quite up to speed, he looked like a very light weight Ronaldo, all tricks no end product blah blah, not in terms of ability.

Fergie does know what he's doing which is probably why Gibson is in the squad and not those

Which is kinda what im saying though.

When Rafael and Fabio play they may make mistakes but you can see a)progress and b) raw ability, and i think thats what you look for in a "young" player in the first XI. Even if they make a blunder there is a greater good. With Gibson, hes actually not that young in the first place and i genuinely dont see a better player than 2 years ago when i though he was pretty dubious, despite the fact that in the interim he has has had more chances than most in the first team.

placeholder · 24 Apr 2011 at 20:45

Tummy said:
Bebe has looked very raw when I've seen him play,

In the same way as if i was told to perform a heart transplant tonight i would look "very raw" or indeed hopelessly out of my depth. Or failing that, in a different career.

rgritchie · 24 Apr 2011 at 20:48

Shamikebab said:
He's scored several, but last season. Now he's in the team for the following reasons:

1. Fergie is a fool.

Take that back. Fergie is a genius (and I dont even like Man U) he is clearly being blackmailed

Shamikebab · 24 Apr 2011 at 20:58

lol perhaps that is true

Dabbles · 24 Apr 2011 at 22:37

Robert1986 said:
Seriously? Howard kept everton in the game untill the last few minutes.

It's pretty widely known that the man of the match isn't allowed to be on the losing team, especially against the Top Four (tm).

cheets64 · 24 Apr 2011 at 23:05

Tummy said:
Cleverley certainly did and he's looked good at Wigan (lol) but I'm quite looking forward to see what he can do in a much better side and given what he's learnt this season

Cracking player, shame he is a manc, ffs

Do you support United as well as Wednesday?

SpeedFreak · 24 Apr 2011 at 23:06

Robbo said:
He's basically an average Michael Carrick who occasionally scores long range shots.

That implies that Carrick is above average, please edit your post to correct.

Tummy · 24 Apr 2011 at 23:09

cheets64 said:
Cracking player, shame he is a manc, ffs

Do you support United as well as Wednesday?

They're very much my second club, I've been shot down for it before.

Wednesday, then Manchester United, Also have a lot of love for Doncaster Rovers (mainly due to a couple of mental uncles that go watch them) and Denaby United (who folded a few years back) but my Grandad used to be the chairman

placeholder · 25 Apr 2011 at 00:12

SpeedFreak said:
That implies that Carrick is above average, please edit your post to correct.

Its unusual for a below average footballer to be the first name in the midfield for a club winning 3 titles in a row and reaching consecutive champions league finals.

6thElement · 25 Apr 2011 at 00:51

IceBus said:
"But he's got a terrific shot!"

No... just no. He's like a white Djemba Djemba.

Can we give him to Villa then too?

6thElement · 25 Apr 2011 at 15:20

lol@ this taken from the Beeb:

Man Utd midfielder Darron Gibson has left Twitter less than two hours after joining the social networking site because of the abuse he received from fans.

Robbo · 25 Apr 2011 at 15:26

Haha

Maybe he saw this thread!

Tummy · 25 Apr 2011 at 15:27

Sham is on twitter then?

Shamikebab · 25 Apr 2011 at 15:28

I am and I did think about messaging him but he isn't worth it

Tummy · 25 Apr 2011 at 15:29

Shamikebab said:
I am and I did think about messaging him but he isn't worth it

oooo You should have just linked him to this haha

The Gibson appreciation society.

SpeedFreak · 25 Apr 2011 at 15:30

placeholder said:
Its unusual for a below average footballer to be the first name in the midfield for a club winning 3 titles in a row and reaching consecutive champions league finals.

There's a then and now, we live in the now. For reference re-watch the FA Cup semi final and remember he's been like that since last season.

DanH84 · 25 Apr 2011 at 15:49

It's a bit crap if United fans were the cause of him deleting it to be honest.