That's Daily Mail level of exaggeration right there!
No, it's a statement of fact.
That's Daily Mail level of exaggeration right there!
Well I'm fairly furious about it - albeit furious that they've done absolutely nothing to get nasty old, heavily polluting diesels off our roads.
Well I'm fairly furious about it - albeit furious that they've done absolutely nothing to get nasty old, heavily polluting diesels off our roads.
No, it's a statement of fact.
We could do plenty to improve the standard of cars on the road if we wanted too. The way most people see situations like this though is an opportunity get the best out out of it for themselves.
You said "Nothing". Something is clearly not nothing.
Nothing is clearly what you've understood of the budget measures.
Neither of the two proposed measures will have any effect on older diesels at all.
The VED change is for new cars only, whilst all company cars are 3-4 years old at most, thus neither has any effect on the endless number of 8+ year old sheds I see on the roads every day, belching out smoke every time they pull away from a junction or set of lights.
The last round of scrapage would be a good example. How many cars got crushed where better than what people who couldn't afford to exchange was driving around in.
Good cars got sold for scrap value and scrap ones left on the road.
Is that an example of something that would improve the existing stock in a cost-effective way? I think you're arguing against a scrappage scheme?
There are about 90 company cars parked outside our office, all '60 plate and another 150 or so more at our local BT Fleet place from around the same year... That's without looking at the vans, tankers and others.The VED change is for new cars only, whilst all company cars are 3-4 years old at most, thus neither has any effect on the endless number of 8+ year old sheds I see on the roads every day, belching out smoke every time they pull away from a junction or set of lights.
You really can't see the point. Aerodrones full of free cars. Roads full of cars. Sort wheat from chaff.
Ah, so you're saying to put back on the roads the cars that were taken off the roads nearly 10 years ago, if they would be replacing a more polluting car that's currently on the road? Wow. Have you thought that through?
There are about 90 company cars parked outside our office, all '60 plate and another 150 or so more at our local BT Fleet place from around the same year... That's without looking at the vans, tankers and others.
And if you see smoke out the back of my '03 diesel, something's wrong!!
Well I see puffs of smoke out the back of just about every diesel I see that's old enough not to have a DPF, but it's not just particulates, it's the NOx that's the real problem.
Struggling with the concept of exchanging worse for better at scrap value?
Struggling with the following:
- recommissioning costs for cars that havent moved in 10 years - tyres, brakes, fuel lines, brake lines, electronics, the list goes on and on
- cleaning the moss off the cars
- finding very few actual cars to be put back on the road that are less polluting than current cars (of similar performance, practicality, etc) that drivers would actually want to drive. And remember old petrol cars can be pretty bad on things like NoX
- logistics - this seems like a good way to transport truckloads of cars around the country, hardly environmentally friendly
All to replace cars currently worth a few k! Are you serious?