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Planning for Retirement

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by randomshenans, 4 Sep 2020.

  1. peter

    Hitman

    Joined: 18 Oct 2002

    Posts: 686

    Location: milton keynes

    Much closer for me,59 3/4, can retire at 60. I was offered severance 2 years ago but would have taken a 25% reduction in pension so kept working. Paid off the mortgage at 49, have been saving 1/3 of our income ( nearly half if you include pension contributions) since then, we will not be rich but hopefully will be able travel while we can. As others have said don't forget to enjoy life you only get one go at it.
     
  2. Narj

    Capodecina

    Joined: 19 Feb 2010

    Posts: 12,953

    Location: London

    I totally relate to the balancing act issue between now and the future. It stresses me out quite a bit.

    My mortgage will be paid off at 43 (this has taken quite a bit of sacrifice to work towards) and I have a good disposable income each month but I have real trouble justifying spending any of it. Usually I'll just add it to what I'm already paying in to pension/ISAs/savings.

    I feel like anything I spend now is making my future self poorer to be honest. The other issue I have is I want to leave my job to do something less stressful soon which means I won't be able to save as much in future. :(

    So yeah be careful not to go down the rabbit hole too far like me. It will drive you crazy. :)
     
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  3. Brumboy

    Wise Guy

    Joined: 11 Jan 2011

    Posts: 2,156

    I am 31. Only a few grand in my pension currently due to not caring about retirement until recently. Putting in the minimum via work.
     
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  4. Trifid

    Sgarrista

    Joined: 18 Feb 2006

    Posts: 8,446

    I too have given this a lot of thought and am particularly interested in the FIRE movement, initially to buy myself a few more years of retirement, but as time has gone on I have come to realise an early retirement is definitely possible with financial focus, and I find that focus has also provided greater financial enjoyment. I.e. restricting consumerism to items that truly bring value and you then value those items much more. I couldn't imagine working in my late 60s, or beyond, and certainly want to have the best chance of good health and mobility going into retirement and a earlier age going in is a good step in the right direction.
     
  5. Penfold101

    Associate

    Joined: 19 May 2010

    Posts: 99

    Coming up to 20 years in the military and could (in theory) retire in 2 years with a pension for the rest of my life and lump sum to go with it. Nowhere near enough to live off but plenty of years left for another career after that while still being paid the pension - I can’t explain how lucky I feel to be in that position, as I was about 5 years into it before realising I even had a pension and what it was all about, plus how incredible the scheme is considering it’s non-contributory.

    Thankyou to the firemen for taking the government to court when they tried to change the scheme for everyone unless you were within 10 years of a state pension, and thus it was ruled age discriminatory...
     
  6. NotAGolf

    Wise Guy

    Joined: 22 Oct 2005

    Posts: 2,463

    Location: Moving...

    I've always put the maximum amount the company will match into my pension (roughly 10 year's worth now). Unfortunately I've not worked anywhere with a decent scheme so it's only been 4/5% (matched).

    I have been putting another 5-10% away in a s+s isa too, with the intention of that being for retirement too, but that's readily accessible if I need it before then for any emergency reasons, or we want a complete lifestyle change.
     
  7. Brumboy

    Wise Guy

    Joined: 11 Jan 2011

    Posts: 2,156

    This is the way to go.
     
  8. OZONE

    Gangster

    Joined: 12 Jul 2020

    Posts: 287

    I've got an NHS pension which I've had for 3 years now. My contributions are probably limited but I've got another 30 years to continue working here...
     
  9. Trifid

    Sgarrista

    Joined: 18 Feb 2006

    Posts: 8,446

    You can see your progress here: https://www.totalrewardstatements.nhs.uk/
     
  10. Nitefly

    Man of Honour

    Joined: 24 Sep 2005

    Posts: 33,731

    I’m in my early 30s and have no savings other than my pension.

    You could die at any time... or have too many commitments to properly enjoy your money when you’re old.

    It’s a tough balance.
     
  11. Mr^B

    Mobster

    Joined: 25 Nov 2002

    Posts: 3,434

    I (48) plough as much as I can into my pension, as my previous company pension swapped from a DB to a DC scheme and I got screwed to the tune of £5k for 8 years' service. Fortunately, I'm fairly well paid and the company has a great contribution matching scheme (they'll double-match up to 7%, so I put in 7%, they put in 14%).

    I'll be mortgage free in 5 years time, at which point I'll start maxing out my pension contributions.

    Will take 25% lump sum at 55 which will be for my kids for house deposit/whatever they want to do with it (currently they are 17, 16, 13 and 9).

    Should have a pot of about £1m by the time I'm 65 (which is about 40k ish p/a via an annuity) so I can either retire or semi-retire and do something a bit more altruistic.
     
  12. m4rmite

    Hitman

    Joined: 26 Oct 2007

    Posts: 601

    I've worked with a number of people who saved for their retirement, only 1 has made it and lived past 70.
    Stroke, cancer and heart attacks have taken away a number of friends and work colleagues before they could reach retirement but they saved their asses off.

    Life needs a balance and that will be different for everyone.
     
  13. Clarkson

    Wise Guy

    Joined: 10 Aug 2010

    Posts: 1,506

    Location: Midlands

    My work pension is pretty naff, with the company only putting in the bare minimum 3% along with my 5%. I need to have another look at it but last time I did, I don't think I thought much of the 'product' it was invested in so I haven't increased my contributions. Instead I put about 22% of my take home pay into a S&S ISA which has done OK so far considering the state of the world recently.

    Also saving more than that for a house deposit, which I sort of wish I could just invest, but owning a home is certainly important to me for when I'm of retirement age.
     
  14. Trifid

    Sgarrista

    Joined: 18 Feb 2006

    Posts: 8,446


    And just because you make it past 70, doesn't mean you will be up to much. My Dad retired and promptly filled up the time with regular hospital and doctors appointments and is not up to venturing much further out the house then that. This is why I have made my own plans outside of a pension and am not expecting the government to change retirement age beyond 70 (so be able to, and will, access my pension at 60).



    That sounds quite generous, especially if you are going to withdraw 25%... When I've looked at annuities, I have found them on the whole, disappointing.
     
  15. Street

    Sgarrista

    Joined: 17 Jan 2005

    Posts: 7,936

    Location: Liverpool

    I'm 37 and have been paying into a pension for about 10 years now. I've got a small work pension and a private pension that I've consolidated a couple others into which holds a reasonable amount. In hindsight, I wish I'd started paying into one sooner but I didn't really know anything about pensions when I was younger! I have been lucky with houses though. When my gf moved in with me I'd built up enough equity in mine that when we wanted to move, I could split it and keep mine to rent out and she could do the same with hers when she moved in with me. We hope to be mortgage free in about 5 years as well which will be a massive load off of the monthly outgoings!

    On the other hand, my dad is nearly 76 and is still going strong, he even took up running during lock down. He did only stop working in the last year though.
     
  16. McBain

    Capodecina

    Joined: 17 Oct 2002

    Posts: 23,494

    Location: Lancs/London

    I don't think about it, I highly doubt i'll make it to retirement age.
     
  17. SexyGreyFox

    Man of Honour

    Joined: 29 Mar 2003

    Posts: 51,738

    Location: Stoke on Trent

    I've got 3.5 years to go but when we sell my Mums bungalow that money will tide me over to my state pension if I want to retire early.
    I already take one pension which gave me an excellent lump sum and allowed me to have one day a week off work.
    I've been with my current employer for 12 years so that will give me a bit also.
    I am desperate to leave now.
     
  18. Hedge

    Capodecina

    Joined: 18 Oct 2002

    Posts: 18,359

    Location: Somewhere in the middle.

    I like the idea of overpaying on mortgage and putting money aside but right now I am still a bit silly with money and just spend most of it on items i want or things I want to do.

    I am easily pleased and dont chase money so even when I do retire on a modest amount I think I will be quite content.

    I'm not really one for travelling abroad . It doesnt excite me. So as long as I can afford some trips to Scotland and Cornwall Ill be fine.

    As long as mortgage is clear I should be fine just mooching about the garden and going to local pub for a few beers!.
     
  19. DanTheMan

    Mobster

    Joined: 11 Oct 2005

    Posts: 4,387

    Location: Manchester, UK

    As much as the idea of retiring at 50 sounds good, I do think I'll end up working until I'm 60-65 in some capacity as I think it has more benefits than just the financial side.

    Where I work, there's quite a large number of people around retirement age and its interesting to see that a good portion of them continue to work past 60, not just for financial reasons. They work 3-4 days a week and seemingly have a very good work / life balance with plenty of holidays and meals out.

    I'd much rather work part time and be able to spend my days off not worrying about overspending than retire early and have less money. Plus, lock down has made me realise that I actually miss a lot of elements of being in the office and in a city centre.
     
  20. bakes0310

    Capodecina

    Joined: 22 Oct 2004

    Posts: 12,778

    Not everyone actually retires they just work part-time till there time is up or mind and body doesn't let them, that will be me.