Police..rubbish at shooting?

robmiller · 4 Oct 2009 at 19:43

I can't imagine reading that news story and my reaction being one of disappointment that nobody died, I actually can't comprehend it. Are you a sociopath?

dangerstat · 4 Oct 2009 at 19:49

I echo robmiller, without context it's just pathetic to wish this bloke had died.

D D Danneh · 4 Oct 2009 at 19:50

Marky said:
I thought they are only normally authorised to "Shoot to disable"?

Shoot to disability allowance

Busa · 4 Oct 2009 at 20:04

robmiller said:
I can't imagine reading that news story and my reaction being one of disappointment that nobody died, I actually can't comprehend it. Are you a sociopath?

I just want the police to be better trained at shooting people dead...is that to much to ask?

LeJosh · 4 Oct 2009 at 20:07

Busa said:
I just want the police to be better trained at shooting people dead...is that to much to ask?

KNiVES · 4 Oct 2009 at 20:16

Busa said:
I just want the police to be better trained at shooting people dead...is that to much to ask?

They aren't trained to kill, they are trained to remove threats - and this is what has happened.

You're a ****ing sociopath.

Busa · 4 Oct 2009 at 20:20

KNiVES said:
They aren't trained to kill, they are trained to remove threats - and this is what has happened.

You're a ****ing sociopath.

How would you remove the threat then?...shoot their fingers off?

Tr Insanity · 4 Oct 2009 at 20:21

Busa said:
How would you remove the threat then?...shoot their fingers off?

Jail perhaps ?

gillywibble · 4 Oct 2009 at 20:28

Dark_Angel said:
I bet they didn't see that coming.

That sir, is an hilariously clever comment

BigglesPiP · 4 Oct 2009 at 20:36

They should be trained to hit all 12 places you can shoot someone and not kill them, in 12 seconds. Even if the target is jumping about and squirting blood everywhere.

Ziggy · 4 Oct 2009 at 20:37

A man is seriously ill in hospital after being shot by firearms officers

Really? I wonder what's wrong with him.

SexyGreyFox · 4 Oct 2009 at 20:49

I have a mate who was shot in the neck and side during Sunday Bloody Sunday and he didn't know until he was back on the van and a fellow soldier told him.

Busa · 4 Oct 2009 at 20:59

dmpoole said:
I have a mate who was shot in the neck and side during Sunday Bloody Sunday

Its not a U2 song man...it was real!

TheVoice · 4 Oct 2009 at 21:15

Marky said:
I thought they are only normally authorised to "Shoot to disable"?

Nope, standard procedure is 'shoot to stop', which as mentioned already means aiming for centre mass. If that means death occurs as a result, so be it. Shoot to disable is difficult and dangerous to implement, and it's pointless anyway; a shot aimed at a leg could easily trim an artery.

Busa said:
The pigs need better firearms.

Why? British armed police officers have some of the latest and best weapons and equipment available, there isn't much room for improvement considering their role.

meghatronic · 4 Oct 2009 at 21:24

Plod policy is to never shoot to kill unless there is immediate threat to life. Aim for the nipples.

Also, just as an fyi, the SAS get more rounds to practice on in one session than Armed Response Police get in their entire deployment.

VoG · 4 Oct 2009 at 21:26

Azagoth said:
People have also survived a self inflicted shotgun blast to the face.

indeed. there was a tv programme last year about suicide survivors, and there was a young guy on it who'd attempted suicide by sticking a shotgun in his mouth. by some cruel twist of fate he managed to survive. tho i should imagine he probably wished he hadn't when ever he looks in the mirror.

Burnsy2023 · 4 Oct 2009 at 21:33

meghatronic said:
Also, just as an fyi, the SAS get more rounds to practice on in one session than Armed Response Police get in their entire deployment.

That's because they're in the Army, it's a totally different job.

meghatronic · 4 Oct 2009 at 21:40

Burnsy2023 said:
That's because they're in the Army, it's a totally different job.

They still have to practice marksmanship.

SexyGreyFox · 4 Oct 2009 at 21:46

Azagoth said:
People have also survived a self inflicted shotgun blast to the face.

"Do it do it"

(Beyond The Realms Of Death - Judas Priest)

semi-pro waster · 4 Oct 2009 at 21:58

Hotwired said:
Back in ye-olde days a chap working on laying railways had a blasting charge of some sort explode near him which impaled his head with a thick steel rod.

Believe one hole was through an eye.

He survived. But subsequently had a really crap life because of its appearance and its effects on his personality.

Phineas Gage is the man I believe you are thinking of, quite remarkable that he survived but it did affect his personality as you say, at least for a time and encouraged theories that specific parts of the brain might control personality.

As for the original post, I'm not totally sure why you'd want shoot to kill to be regular policy? No one dying is one of the better results possible from an armed incident.