Psoriasis

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I've suffered with Psoriasis for most of my life.
The ONLY treatment that works for me and stops it from coming back is this stuff...

http://www.springherb.co.uk/Indigo_Naturalis_Products.html?gclid=CPby4qqXpp0CFaBb4wod60JJ3Q

... which contains Indigo Naturalis, a naturally occuring, plant-based, blue powder.

It's being getting a lot of press of late, so I thought I'd be a guinea pig and give it a go. I'm not much of a fan of chinese, mumbo-jumbo, tree-hugging-hippy type stuff, but I'm so glad I gave it a shot.
 
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My daughter was diagnosed with psoriasis when she was 3 years old, 18 now.
at times she has had it in her scalp, on her body front and back, arms and legs, sometimes all at the same time. however now she only has it mildly on her trunk and sometimes on her legs. she is lucky in that she has never had it on her face.
 
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Treat it internally. Always consult your doctor if for example - eg taking blood thinning medication whilst using something like Fish Oil.
With psoriasis though you should be ok to start with 1 tablespoon of flaxseed oil a day, keep a food diary to see what triggers it off, dairy may well be the culprit. Big topic so I suggest you read up on it. Patrick Holford's Optimum Nutrition Bible is a decent book to start with. I had quite bad eczema until I got in to better eating habits years ago. Slapping on creams won't work, especially if they don't work in harmony with your body like the quack's creams do not.
Hemp seed oil is another wise consideration;)
 
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Thought I'd chip in here as well.

I didn't start suffering with it until my late teens.

It started on my elbows and knees at first for a couple of years...then I noticed a weird flakey patch in my eyebrow. That started spreading outwards through my eyebrow and started advancing up my forehead.

It them spread to my cheek at the side of my nose...a skin specialist GP told me it was seborrheic dermatitis (a yeast infection basically!) and gave me strong antifungal tablets...which didn't do a jot apart from needlessly medicating me.

A couple of years ago I had a mole checked out with a consultant at the local hospital who said it was definitely psoriasis.

Now the damned stuff has spread to both elbows (and down one arm), both knees, both eyebrows and most of my forehead, both cheeks (look like a flipping clown when I come out of the shower as they go red), into the corners of my eyes and up one eyelid, there is a spot developing at the corner of my mouth, I've got it in my ears, behind my ears and all over my scalp. I too get it on my tackle and round the back as well...nothing like that delicate skin splitting to wake you up in the morning! Not fun at the best of times :(

I tick a lot of the boxes for getting it however:
It's in the family
I don't get outside in the sun as I'm too busy with work
I run my own business so major stress is a constant companion

I've tried creams from the doc...nothing seemed to help really and I'd prefer to have an overproduction of skin cells rather than permanently thinned skin from application of steroid creams, I would never use UV or sunbeds, I'm quite moley. The medical profession just understands how to treat the symptoms, not the cause.

I also get eczema on my hands when the weather changes it seems...it's got colder lately and now the skin has opened up in loads of little splits...my hands look like an emo kid at a Gillette factory - stings a bit!

I think diet may play a factor...

Have you guys tried laying off wheat or dairy? I was off dairy completely for two months - nothing with any hint of dairy at all...no choc, no cheese, no bread if it had dairy in the ingredients...after the two months I *think* it was improving...but as I am a very fussy eater I was having difficulty and I'm slipping back into it, I need to plan eating properly and try again.

I have read that a zinc deficiency can play a bit part in psoriasis.
Zinc is mostly found in meat and some veg such as baked beans, chick peas etc.

Well I'm a pescetarian (eat fish + eggs etc. but no animals or birds) and have been for years and it seems that I could definitely be lacking in zinc, the percentage that is absorbed via veg is quite low apparently.

There are symptoms of zinc deficiency, I don't want to stray into medical advice territory on here, so I'll just say do your research, see if the symptoms sound anything like you and speak to your doc if they sound familiar.

One thing that should be noted is that zinc can be harmful if too much of it is taken so don't run down the shops and just start popping supplements!

Many thanks to the OP and other posters for sharing their experiences, we all know that we aren't the only ones with it, but it's nice to read about shared experiences.
 
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I find that UVB clears mine up within a few months, but it slowly creeps back afterwards. Creams do nothing for me, so I have given up on those, but I do want to try the Dead Sea sometime soon :)

I generally have it all over my body, but at the moment after my UVB finished a few months ago, it is currently all over my scalp, and small patches on my elbows!
 
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As you mention, it is quite a common illness, and even from readin the posts in here it seems to effect a fair few members... you're not alone :) There are much worse things out there, bu i know how it can greatly effect your life... it just trying not to let it do so, but its much easier said than done!

I have severe full body atopic eczema, have done since i was a kid. It mainly came and went throughout 0 and 19 then it vanished totally for 3 years, came back about 3-4 ago. I could keep it somewhat ok last year, usual steroid based creams... but this year has been a disaster.

Had about 5-6 major flair ups and been living with it in a right state, cancelled so much, lost my job, was basically hiding, went to the skin clinic and was papped into hospital for 9 days. The differance non stop creaming made, i was REALLY good when i left, best in years! But that level of creaming with a life was undoable, and as much as i put on at night, my skin was back to bad after a week :( I seem to do the bulk of my damage in my sleep!

Whist in hospital they finally mentioned something different to me (never mentioned them before), drugs that suppress the immune system as apparently lots of 'our' issues are caused by it being over active. Cyclosporine has been mentioned, but i was told that the chances of side effects were higher than with what they put me on (tho results can be seen VERY quicky, weeks). I have been put on a low dose of azathioprine, which could take 2-3 months to work, but apparently results are very good with it! On my 4th week, so need to see what happens!

With everyone (as id imagine you know) different things work for different people... Lots have mentioned light treatment. First time i got this it worked fantastic, but soon after my skin was back to bad. Second time, i took REALLY bad to it and it was aborted. Never had it again. I see no difference during summer and winter, its bad full stop lol. Most annoying thing is that mines did vanish for 3 years, and i havnt a clue why! Nothing changed, not my diet, living condition, jobs, stress etc (if anything i was more stressed).

Its sadly something you just need to get used to, and i must be honest... im not. People who understand are great, mates, family etc. But the stares of childern can still get to me... some adults too even. It hard to head out and be active when feeling so bad, or worried about how you look, but lots of it is more how you feel. In general most are very understanding, and wont say a thing :)

Quickly before i finish, you also seem to get used to it. My skin it much better now than it has been recently, but i can still name all my sore bits. (shoulders, lower back, upper chest, upper arms, left hand, both ankles, my hips, behind my legs, ears) But this feels like nothing to how it was. So today at the skin clinic i went in all happy and feeling good, doctor seen me and called my back a disaster... guess im just used to it being much worse!

Anyway, seems like lots of us would be willing to chat if you ever want to :) (sorry for my most epic post ever)
 
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I find mine is stress related but moisturise a lot to keep the dryness in check. I do find though that some creams (E45) made mine worse if anything.

Just making a point that even though E45 is advertised as being useful for Eczema or other skin conditions it's actually pretty horrible for sensitive skin as it contains Lanolin (a waxy substance originally sourced from Woolly animals), and while this is an effective moisture barrier it can cause allergic reactions or just generally cause skin to become hotter and more itchy.

Avoid E45.
 
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I also get eczema on my hands when the weather changes it seems...it's got colder lately and now the skin has opened up in loads of little splits...my hands look like an emo kid at a Gillette factory - stings a bit!

Whilst I can't say anything about your other symptoms, the eczema on your hands might be pompholyx (also has some other names, but if you Google this term and don't mind the yucky pictures that result, it might answer some questions). Symptoms are a lot like psoriasis but it only affects hands and sometimes feet. The reason I thought you might want to check it out is because you mentioned that it's affected by the weather.

I've had pompholyx eczema for about 4 years now (always calmer in the winters) and I have finally concluded that the best preventative is to keep my hands clear of all liquid chemicals including creams, lotions and even water, especially hot water. I mean, it's still ok to handle liquids but I have to wash my hands within a couple of minutes and dry them well, otherwise it sets off and won't calm down for at least a week. It's a pain but I'm pretty automatic with it now.

Vegetable starch is the absolute worst for setting it off - the problem first arose when I was chipping potatoes for a local fish and chip shop on weekends, that coupled with salt and vinegar all over my hands made them really bad. I can't handle peeled potatoes or tomatoes for more than a few seconds now before my fingers start itching.

The human body is a far from perfect creation it seems!
 
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I get it on my scalp, and find that stress, alcohol and dairy products tend to make it worse, especially alcohol! :(

Sun, exercise, lots of water and fruit juice have all helped but it never totally goes away. I might try the plant based powder mentioned earlier in the thread to see if that helps.
 
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I feel for anyone on here with bad psoriasis. people do stare and don,t understand (sometimes It does make you feel like a leper). The condition can be inherited and I hope my daughter does not suffer.

I suffer mildly most of the times, symptoms similar to everyone else hair/elbows/knees/back. I once had a throat infection which sent my body nuts and into severe guttate psoriasis. I was covered, face everything all over, the doctor was shocked and I felt i could not leave the house or go to work, but I did. I feel for anyone who feels like this - it's not nice.

For me sunlight helps best, Uv treatment especially narrowband is excellent from your hospital. Sunbeds can be dangerous including the psoriasis specific tubed ones. The drugs as mentioned are highly successful but with possible side effects.

Speak to a doctor and if you not happy find another, try to get a referral to a consultant at the hospital. Cocois ointment is fantastic for the scalp. Diprobase cream is a moisturiser which will stop scaling/itching. Keep trying creams anything until you are happy within yourself with the results, but get a prepaid prescription else you will spend a fortune. That's what we all pay our taxes for.

I was studying for exams when my psoriasis started. It's definately stress related, people tend to drink alcohol under stress so whether this increases the effect nobody seems to know. I try not to think about the condition now and get wrapped up in events that i enjoy, staying away from stressful events when possible and avoiding deadlines. I used to have tiny concerns that mounted up and got on top of me, an endless list of things to do at home even after the pressures of work. Now i try not to care about anything else but my family and their wellbeing and having fun. Work and money and jobs around the house and possessions are not really that important - just material. This really helps me feel more relaxed, less a part of the rat race and my skin is not such an issue anymore.
 
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Just making a point that even though E45 is advertised as being useful for Eczema or other skin conditions it's actually pretty horrible for sensitive skin as it contains Lanolin (a waxy substance originally sourced from Woolly animals), and while this is an effective moisture barrier it can cause allergic reactions or just generally cause skin to become hotter and more itchy.

Avoid E45.

Very true!

First time i tried e45 was when i forgot to pick up a tub of my moisturiser for a wee 2 day trip, so bought some e45 from asda or similar. It did not go down well with me at all! :(
 
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I've got it on my scalp and in my ears and that's why I keep my haircut to a number 1.
The cream that works for me is called Dovobet.

The worst case I ever saw was a lad who worked at Creda (he also plays DRUMS in a thrash band called Burnt).
He walked onto the assembly line one day, opened up the bottom of his trackies and it looked like he'd opened a box of cornflakes on the floor.
The woman next to him fainted.
He lifted up his sleeves, his arms were bleeding and he reckoned he hadn't scratched so I sent him home where he would go to the hospital and have a weeks treatment under lamps.
He was actually saving up to go to Turkey where there are magic fish that eat all the psoriasis away.
He also claimed that he was the second worst case in the country and a girl had it worse than him.
 
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