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Question about a case....

Discussion in 'General Hardware' started by kmistry, 18 May 2006.

  1. kmistry

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    Hi dudes, man do i love asking question :D

    anyway, I'm thinking of getting the Enermax CS-527 Case Black because i think it looks mint, and also because its nice and cheap, anyway.

    My question is how do people ventilate their cases so well, as i know there is space for 3 fans in this case (correct me if im wrong), so i would buy 3 case fans. But im not the best at keeping a case ventilated as my current setup keeps dying :(
    would you just simply have one blowing air in and 2 blowing air out? if so do you then need extractor fans, or do you just turn the case fan around the other way (how dense i know)

    thanks in advance
     
  2. earlyflash

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    You should ideally have as many fans sucking air from the case as blowing into the case, this will give ideal airflow.

    You can just reverse a fan, yes, that works.
     
  3. kmistry

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    as opposed to getting a proper exhaust fan ? I ask this because i was going to get the Akasa amber fans, and just turn them around, is this the easiest method ? or am I just being dense?
     
  4. Zefan

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    There is no such thing as a purpose made "Extracting" fan - it's as simple as turning the fan around.
     
  5. kmistry

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    Aha thanks for the swift reply - it was just me being dense, lol :D
     
  6. BigDom

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    There are 3 factors to cooling a case.

    1) is a well designed case. For instance if the front of the case has poor vents in it then an input fan will struggle.
    2) a tidy interior. There is no excuse for poor cable routing and poor cable routing can badly effect the flow inside a case. This is the interior of my PC7 for example.

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    3) Proper installation of fans. Rear and top fans should extract, if you have a CPU cooler with a virtical fan such as a Freezer Pro that should blow towards the rear of the case. Front and side fans should suck air in.

    Regarding the Enermex ( incidently this is definatly in the wrong forum ) I'm not sure it's a particularly good case. Just looking at the picture there appears to be no front vent = poor input air flow = harder to keep cool.
     
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  7. kmistry

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    thank you very much and thanks for the picture, i do intend to be using a freezer 64 with my athlon, purely to keep the thing cool! i will be taking all of this into account, sorry for this being in the wrong forum, any ideas on a good case with good ventilation?
     
  8. BigDom

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    Lian-Li PC7+ :)

    The enermax MAY be ok ( guru's in the case forum will know ) but looking at it I don't think so.
     
  9. kmistry

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    thanks for that dude, case is a bit ugly but i guess im not really bothered about that long as it keeps cool :)
     
  10. BigDom

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    hehe it's not ugly :)

    Sure it's plain looking but not ugly :).
     
  11. kmistry

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    i take it that is your case then ?
     
  12. vanandjuanunited

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    Damn dusty though... :p
     
  13. kmistry

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    dude if you think that is dusty you should see mine, its Embarrassing!
     
  14. hp7909

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    I find if you have good air flowing in and even better (hot/dirty) air flowing out, then the rest of the PC should remain cool, especially the processor. General rule is to have a fan (120mm or 2x80mm) sucking-in at the front & another 1, or 2, sucking-out the hot air. Good GFX's & PSU's should get rid of their own hot air, which would aid even further. AND avoid backing up the case against a wall or tight space. Found my case was just taking back-in the hot air + ran my fans at full speed thinking they were not working :mad: With a few readjustments/modifications (nothing bought) managed to lower my temps by 4°C & noise to a very acceptable level. Tidying up the case is also important in the sense of airflow once (the air's) inside the case.

    I second the Lian-Li PC7+ :D

    EDIT: Just wanted to add that fans have 2 small arrows engraved on the side showing you which direction it will spin & the second arrow the direction of the air. So, the latter basically points the direction the air will go. On black fans, you'll have to look a-bit harder to see the engravings.
     
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  15. BigDom

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    hehe yes it is :)

    and yes it's a little dusty.. just didn't clean it well before moving it into that case ( that dust is from the previous case not the PC7).
     
  16. vanandjuanunited

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    OT Dom how do you find that mobo. Is it any good for overclocking?
     
  17. LoadsaMoney

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    I thought i was looking at mine there :eek: , only mines not that dusty and leads/fans/case etc.. are different, but the board and the x1800 are the same, looks like the Ram is to if thats Geil Value. :D
     
  18. BigDom

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    I think it's great, pretty good for clocking ( only done minor clocks on it but the options are there to go higher ). The issues that people have flagged with them only occur when you push them hard ( i.e high core voltages ) but for air clocking I can't fault it. Plus of course the sound is SUPERB.
     
  19. BigDom

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    Yep :-

    Lian Li PC7+ Silver case
    Tagan modular PSU
    Akaska Amber Fans
    Geil Value Ram
    X2 3800+ CPU
    Powercolor X1800XT
    A8R-MVP mobo
    Samsung Spinpoint HDD

    :)
     
  20. split

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    Another vote here for the Lians.

    I have had one for err....over 5 years (one of the originals like this )

    It's stood the test of time, and is sooo easy to work with.
    Removable mobo tray is nice, but not a must.

    I have worked on many PCs over the years, and the Lian is user friendly and so much better made than most of the metal jobs (it's also aluminium and light)

    My old Lian (I have 2) had a noisy front fan after 5 years usage, so I just replaced them with a couple of these.
    My newer Lian has the top blow-hole that my early one doesn't have.

    I think it's like a Porsche 911.
    They got the design right more or less first time, and all they have done is tweaked it every few years.

    I don't like the V series Lians, and they also can't handle really deep PSU's.

    EDIT: This little touch on the Lian is a treat to use as well.
     
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