Oh i agree, Polaris is a decent product and the PCIE issue was overblown, but it does seem every release AMD messes up at-least one thing. And anyone who thinks that Fiji, and even Vega were acceptable products at release is deluding themselves, this is from a Vega owner, they were massively overpriced at release, i said that when they released. At £400 the Vega 64 is an awesome purchase. At £500 the Vega7 would be an awesome purchase, at their current prices.... No... sorry... once they drop down in price next year on specials to £500-£550 they will be a decent buy, especially if we get some aftermarket cooled ones. Also after watching Debauers video, its clear the AMD drivers dont work with these cards in an overclocking capacity at all.... If AMD manage to address that, then these cards will look alot better, and add in the AMD finewine over time, these cards will be a solid purchase in 1 years time.