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Recycling.. Why bother?

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by Admiral Huddy, 28 Sep 2009.

  1. Admiral Huddy

    Caporegime

    Joined: 17 Feb 2003

    Posts: 29,560

    Location: Chelmsford & Broadgate

    Everyday, like millions across the country, I do my bit and sort out our plastics, card, paper, plastics etc and place them in separate containers for collection. I hate it, it get's under feet and having to remember the different collection times is a pain but you get a small feeling that your doing your bit but then you read something like this..


    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ents-sort-rubbish-boxes--dumped-together.html


    After years of goverment advisory dictating that we should be doing more to recycle, this is really isn't a good insentive. I'm sure plenty of people already wonder whether these items are recycled after all. It appears not.

    Plus when you think of the unrealisd cost of recycling and it's own impact on the envionment. We have to wash our glass, jars and plastic bottles with hot water which is sourced from gas and this is even before they are processed at the recycle plant.

    When it comes to collection day, you can guarantee a trail of plastic bottles everywhere the trucks have been. The other week, my kids sorted the the recycling and accidentally put plastics in with the glass. The collectors just tipped them out onto the road side for them blow all down the road.

    So the question is, is this really a conservative effort to help the environment or is it just a vizard to make it look like targets are being met?
     
  2. jp_bl_68

    Sgarrista

    Joined: 3 Jan 2009

    Posts: 8,040

    I couldn't care less. Once a fortnight the bin men collect at least twice as much rubbish as they used to. That's a good thing.
     
  3. Fegruson

    Wise Guy

    Joined: 6 Jan 2009

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    Location: Derby

    I was under the impression that plastics CURRENTLY don't get recycled, becuase it costs too much to send abroad for it to be melted down or whatever, and that everything else was recycled.
     
  4. Meaker

    Mobster

    Joined: 19 May 2004

    Posts: 3,683

    Did you read to the end? The lorries are taking it to be recycled but the larger lorry had difficulties entering the small cul-de-sac.
     
  5. Hamish

    Mobster

    Joined: 14 Apr 2003

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    Location: Deepest Yorkshire

    Where I live they just have one bag and we don't have to separate it... Glass, paper and plastic all in one. easy! :D
     
  6. a1ex2001

    Capodecina

    Joined: 14 Mar 2005

    Posts: 13,552

    Location: Here and There...

    What really annoys me is the huge sums of money a company like Veolia make out of it, they are the ones making the profit so they should be doing the work ie sorting and filtering not us the customers.
     
  7. platypus

    Caporegime

    Joined: 25 Jul 2003

    Posts: 39,073

    Location: Rhône-Alpes+Cambridge

    I know of a few places where the recycling goes to landfill, it really does beggar belief.

    In fact, I've written to my council to try and find out where our recycling here goes. We're getting the Blue bin in November (everything goes in at once), and I'm hoping that it does get recycled.
     
  8. Abraham

    Sgarrista

    Joined: 13 Dec 2002

    Posts: 7,646

    Location: Manchester City Centre

    eh?
    I'm unsure as to the source of your frustration, this one council has opted to have single point recycling collection for 50 roads in the area because they're too small for the recycling truck to get down. I presume they hadn't been told specifically because the communication will go out to thousands of roads.

    As for washing your recyclables with hot water, I'm pretty sure a quick rinse with cold water will suffice, they don't have to be clean enough to use again straight out of your recycling bin :confused:

    Here we have quite a good system, two bins which most recyclables can go into, paper, cans, glass, plastic bottles and then a black bin for general waste, the recyclables alternate and the black bin goes every week.
     
  9. SkeeterUK

    Capodecina

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    Location: North East

    freecycle dot org.
     
  10. platypus

    Caporegime

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    Location: Rhône-Alpes+Cambridge

    Are you sure? The cost to the council would then go up, which would in turn put your council tax up as well.
     
  11. Longbow

    Sgarrista

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    Who's to say that it's beng put in a landfill from the picture? Some councils mix all the recyclable content together for logistics reasons, and then sort it all out at the plant.

    Why do you use hot water? They don't need to be sparkling clean as it gets melted down anyway. Just run it under the cold tap. And despite this, it's still cheaper to recylce and it means less landfill sites.
     
  12. Admiral Huddy

    Caporegime

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    Location: Chelmsford & Broadgate

    I wish we had a blue bin for all but then there's the cost of of sorting the other end.

    We have a brown bin for garden waste which gets collected once every 2 weeks and once a month during winter. Total waste of time.
     
  13. Musty Pie

    Soldato

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    Location: Hertfordshire

    You use twice the amount of plastics .... im sure that is the root of the problem :)
     
  14. Admiral Huddy

    Caporegime

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    Apparently it's a requirement although i don't bother too much now. Mind you, have you smelt empty milk bottles after two weeks.. ?
     
  15. Admiral Huddy

    Caporegime

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    Location: Chelmsford & Broadgate

    Agreed go back to old glass milk bottles, we seem to have gone backwards.
     
  16. Musty Pie

    Soldato

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    On a more serious note i have had many arguments with our local bin men (and hate to be stereo typical but most of them are *****) over them not collecting bins due to many reasons, even though i follow the rules down to the last detail. And make sure all my family do.

    I feel most of them like a power trip now and then.
     
  17. platypus

    Caporegime

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    Location: Rhône-Alpes+Cambridge

    I've just insulated two ceilings with insulation made from old milk bottles. So someones recycling it :).
     
  18. a1ex2001

    Capodecina

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    Location: Here and There...

    No there obsene profits would go down ;-)
     
  19. platypus

    Caporegime

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    Don't be so naive ;). They would simply up their costs to maintain the profit margin.
     
  20. Longbow

    Sgarrista

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    They smell fine because I wash then out with cold water. :p

    Here though, not only have to sort out the recyclable goods, but I also have to take it to a recycle point myself in the car. Can't say it really bothers me. Although we do at least get weekly rubbish collections.

    Also, why is your title "pUnderboss"?