Ahhhh good shout. I'm sure I'd seen that other places rather than going in that way but quite stumped now as it's been a while since I saw it. Was sure I saw it more frequently than I do these days lol.Where it gives the score you just click/tap on that...
Good call about TSS. I have to admit I 'aim' some rides at that, particularly if I've had an 'easier' week for various reasons, yet feel good and that I need to hammer something to make it up for the week. The WTRL TTT's on Zwift coming in at 100 TSS for me, that's always a figure I've aimed at for 1.5 hours of 'other' riding/racing.It's strictly training stress balance - I use GC so that follows the Coggan naming conventions, but they're all measuring the same metric, that is, how much TSS above or below your CTL you are. If you're hovering at 0 that means your effort for the day matched your chronic training load so you should feel ok.
If you go massively over your CTL then you'll likely over reach and not really build from that. It's easy to build an artificially high CTL by doing huge rides once per week, but you'll not have the same type of physical adaptations as you would by riding in a structured manner 5 days a week, say. When I first joined a club I spent 2 years feeling totally destroyed every monday from the sunday club ride. It was only once I started adding in some Z2 work that I could cope with it.
You'd be amazed how fit you can get riding an hour a day at the top of Z2 power. It's just bordering on the uncomfortable/boring, but doable if you're motivated. A lot of people put loads of sprint efforts into their training for the sunday cafe run, madness! Doing the hour at Z2 gets you to a CTL of around 65 - If you want more you've got to either double up on training sessions, add a long weekend ride in, do some Z3 etc.
Sweet. Grab a pack of CR2032's as there's nothing more annoying than scratching around looking for one or only having a couple spares, then having to go to the shop/petrol station to find some and paying silly money. Think the last ones I got where ~10 of them from Amazon, Panasonic branded for £5-6.All fitted and updated, battery is at 50% out the box annoyingly but looking forward to some Z2 rides now I can pace it.
Yup, probably start with it set at a fairly conservative 270W, then work from there up - very quick with something like racing on Zwift - it'll keep track of it for you every time you get an increase, with doing specific FTP tests and changing it manually...I'm sure Jonny would be fine hitting 310W quite easily looking at the rides he does!
Looks like I'm mostly at 480-510, then the occasional up around 550-580, generally I don't go as high as you're seeing without a monster single ride in there (a few weeks during furlough trying to find my climbing legs I got near 1000! ).
My 'easy' weeks are 300-350. Looks like I get to 200 with my commuting alone...
Good call about TSS. I have to admit I 'aim' some rides at that, particularly if I've had an 'easier' week for various reasons, yet feel good and that I need to hammer something to make it up for the week. The WTRL TTT's on Zwift coming in at 100 TSS for me, that's always a figure I've aimed at for 1.5 hours of 'other' riding/racing.
I think what you're describing is something we discussed in one of the training threads 6 months or more ago, might even have been the Indoor Training thread. Lots of Z1/2 then the occasional short session in Z5. Probably similar to what we get to on our own, but takes the two sides of it to extremes - you get more recovery, massive base fitness, with a similar strain. But takes a large amount of structure/concentration to get the best benefits. I know I couldn't do it with the ways I generally ride (& commute).
Give 235W a go for an hour and see how you get on. Keep a check on the HR.
Sweet. Grab a pack of CR2032's as there's nothing more annoying than scratching around looking for one or only having a couple spares, then having to go to the shop/petrol station to find some and paying silly money. Think the last ones I got where ~10 of them from Amazon, Panasonic branded for £5-6.
Yup, probably start with it set at a fairly conservative 270W, then work from there up - very quick with something like racing on Zwift - it'll keep track of it for you every time you get an increase, with doing specific FTP tests and changing it manually...
Is this for Z2? I'm chunky so numbers seem high, I remember doing a 303w ride for an hour previously.
Batteries I generally carry one in my saddlebag in the little card/plastic blister thing. They're cheap enough it's 'meh' if it goes missing, but also small and handy enough to carry. My HRM takes them too but with only needing to change every 8-10 months I don't think I've changed one at the roadside. My 4iiii is generally quite 'good' at complaining about 'Power Low' on my head unit for days. Think even last time it was for a couple of weeks of commuting before it eventually died. Tend to notice a few dropouts before then too, so quite easy to spot and do at my leisure. So unsure I've changed that at the roadside either - even though I'm carrying a spare! My Powertap C1 on the other hand... No warning, just a dropout or two and then within a few hours utterly dead, so I would change that at the roadside...Cheers, good shout with the batteries. Will keep some in the car too.
I'll set it back lower as the ramp test seems to give a higher artificial reading for an ftp. Ftp is a lot of ***** in some ways when you have to go way above it then way below it on most of my hard rides.
If you're at 300W for an hour then top of Z2 for you is 227W. I'd over-egged it slightly based on a previous post. Doing that for an hour will net you 60 odd TSS, which for winter is a very good number to get your CTL to imo.
Ok sure, I should've qualified my post by saying top of Z2, based on Coggan power zones; which were derived from LT tests.Not necessarily. Depends on so many factors and could only be determined by proper testing with blood taken to confirm your lactate thresholds.
All fitted and updated, battery is at 50% out the box annoyingly but looking forward to some Z2 rides now I can pace it.
Garmin woes!Tried to to do a comparison with the Tacx hooked up to Zwift and my 4iiii via my Garmin but it looks like the Garmin hasn't recorded anything bar the ride time even though it was showing on the screen.
Who knows what went on there
FTP tests are overrated! I've not completed one for over 12 months - after a series of blowing myself up on them in the spring, I just gave up. Last one I actually completed was October 2019. I did a couple of ramp tests instead and seemed a little on the low side, but was near to where I expected so just used those figures. As I'm not doing any real training based off it, it doesn't bother me. Might be worth trying if you have a longer/steady enough climb? Maybe a good Z3 ride out/long warm up, then start at 250W and increase by 25-30W every 60s until you blow (rather than starting quite low as the Zwift one does). So a 5-6 minute climb should be more than enough?(I still did not do an FTP test.. had the power meter nearly a year now....)
He's just cranky as you didn't buy it through the shop lol, or you just been half wheeling/dropping him too muchMy boss was ripping into me saying it's a waste of money and a load of pish. Maybe £200 would have been better spent on a massage going by how my body feels
Did you calibrate the 4iii on the garmin prior?Tried to to do a comparison with the Tacx hooked up to Zwift and my 4iiii via my Garmin but it looks like the Garmin hasn't recorded anything bar the ride time even though it was showing on the screen.
Who knows what went on there
https://www.strava.com/activities/4417379414/overview is the Tacx one
https://www.strava.com/activities/4417435272 is the ****** one. If the numbers on the Garmin were from the 4iiii then they seemed lower, quite a bit at points. I had instant and 3s power and Zwift is set for instant I think. Unless I had the Tacx connected to the Garmin and Zwift if that is possible? That would have recorded power then
Tried to to do a comparison with the Tacx hooked up to Zwift and my 4iiii via my Garmin but it looks like the Garmin hasn't recorded anything bar the ride time even though it was showing on the screen.
Who knows what went on there
https://www.strava.com/activities/4417379414/overview is the Tacx one
https://www.strava.com/activities/4417435272 is the ****** one. If the numbers on the Garmin were from the 4iiii then they seemed lower, quite a bit at points. I had instant and 3s power and Zwift is set for instant I think. Unless I had the Tacx connected to the Garmin and Zwift if that is possible? That would have recorded power then
Garmin woes!
Not sure why, might be able to understand it if there was no power data at all, but there's that 'blip' at the end which does mean something was working and broadcasting. With the HR data showing similar I'd squarely place the blame on the Garmin. ANT+ from the Tacx could connect to both, but think the BT is generally only single, but again trainer is generally transmitting BT & ANT+ so you can use 1 on head unit and 1 on laptop/tablet.
Maybe just take the 5w average and the 329W average and go somewhere between, 200W? Were you even pushing bro?
More seriously - great numbers and ride, incredible effort that deep for that long, just backing up with the numbers, showing what you're capable of and have been doing all along. Chapeau!
FTP tests are overrated! I've not completed one for over 12 months - after a series of blowing myself up on them in the spring, I just gave up. Last one I actually completed was October 2019. I did a couple of ramp tests instead and seemed a little on the low side, but was near to where I expected so just used those figures. As I'm not doing any real training based off it, it doesn't bother me. Might be worth trying if you have a longer/steady enough climb? Maybe a good Z3 ride out/long warm up, then start at 250W and increase by 25-30W every 60s until you blow (rather than starting quite low as the Zwift one does). So a 5-6 minute climb should be more than enough?
He's just cranky as you didn't buy it through the shop lol, or you just been half wheeling/dropping him too much
I set up the tacx vortex span it for a few minutes then calibrated it on my phone.
Garmin picked up the 4iiii and I did the calibrate through that and had also through the 4iiii app.
Windows 10 running zwift, I swear my garmin was reading same cadence as zwift but power numbers were different. I'm sure I hit start 15 seconds before the race start so it wasn't that.