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Rocket Lake Review: A waste of sand...

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Jesus Fudge, if AMD's marketing was actually as good as this dribble suggests, intel would be filing for bankruptcy because they'd never sell another CPU again.

I also love the way the 11900K is literally only mentioned in the opening couple of sentences.

Look! 11900K is out!
Whinge
Whinge
Everybody's lying
Seriously, everybody's lying
Benchmarks are lies
Whinge
Whinge
Alder Lake is coming and it's gonna be great!
 
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Userbench really do bang on like AMD killed their cat and thought it was funny, they are the embodiment of the Intel fanboy, i ######## hate that narcissistic petulant term, its like all that's wrong with the twitter age, are we all children now and can't string together a coherent sentence to describe a persons agenda?

##### it! i can't be bothered, fanboys.
 
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I thought that was some drivel off a forum or reddit post.

But no that's actually what they wrote on the site.

Thing is even the Intel subreddit banned that site being mentioned.
 
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Userbenchmark has basically zero credibility in the tech community, having been warned by tech enthusiasts such as Gamers Nexus and Hardware Unboxed multiple times over their misleading scores and conclusions.
What is a real shame is they are still ranked high on Google searches despite all the warnings and outright subreddit bans.
 
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Userbenchmark has basically zero credibility in the tech community, having been warned by tech enthusiasts such as Gamers Nexus and Hardware Unboxed multiple times over their misleading scores and conclusions.
What is a real shame is they are still ranked high on Google searches despite all the warnings and outright subreddit bans.

You only rank that high when you pay for it, and it costs a lot, it may not be Intel themselves who are paying these people to shill, there are a lot of other vested interests tied to Intel's success.
 
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The sad thing is how many hits they get, userbenchmark consistently pulls over 10 million views per month. How users get there is super obvious as well, people don't look for userbenchmark they type in "organic" terms into Google like "gpu benchmark" or "cpu benchmark" and because of how much they pay Google their names come up at the top. Userbenchmark also doesn't have much traffic from people directly going to the site or from direct links through 3rd pages like from Reddit or youtube etc nor does it get many clicks from ads - their entire thing relies on people searching for generic tech terms on Google and that's it

https://www.similarweb.com/website/userbenchmark.com/#overview
 
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The sad thing is how many hits they get, userbenchmark consistently pulls over 10 million views per month. How users get there is super obvious as well, people don't look for userbenchmark they type in "organic" terms into Google like "gpu benchmark" or "cpu benchmark" and because of how much they pay Google their names come up at the top

https://www.similarweb.com/website/userbenchmark.com/#overview

It doesn't matter, much to their obvious frustration they ain't helping Intel's DIY sales, someone is paying out a lot of money and getting nothing in return, good, keep it up.
 
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Is Rocket lake bad for overclocking?












why yes, yes it is unless you have copious amounts of LN2 and a stomach for voltages that would make most of our eyes pop out
 
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If Intel's planning is so good, where are the 8 core 10nm tiger lake desktop CPUs? Maybe the die yields are just bad, in which case they had no choice, but to wing it with 14nm Rocket Lake, with max power consumption of ~400w on just 8 cores! And it still loses to the humble 5600x in some games, with max power consumption of 134w.

Instead they hope upgraders will wait for alder lake, probably still a year away from consumers being able to buy one.

Weirdly though, Intel investors aren't selling their stocks (yet). Maybe Intel has a lot of investment from collective tech. funds, rather than individual investors?
 
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Rocket Lake IS Tiger Lake on desktop...kinda. The Cypress Cove core used in Rocket Lake is a 14nm backport of the Willow Cove core used in Tiger Lake (with enough tweaks to warrant a different name). Knowing that 10nm yields were horrendous, Cypress Cove was always a contingency plan to just fill some time until 10nm yields were viable for desktop.

It just so happens that Alder Lake is ahead of schedule now that something 10nm is working well enough.

And investors aren't selling stocks because Intel is still making large amounts of money; why sell stock in a profitable company?
 
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Investors were getting nervous about Intel, nervous about AMD's resurgence, nervous about their margins being forced down, AMD are selling CPU's into the data centre space at $8,000 that are literally twice as good as anything Intel have, while Intel are used to selling their chips at $20,000 a pop, while AMD's market share has only grown to about 8% in data centre it is continuing to grow at Intel's expense, despite AMD low market share it is having an effect on Intel's margins and if AMD's grows much more under cutting Intel like this Intel can start waving good bye to the sort of money they are used to.
Its why they had a change of leadership, now they are back to that "Intel will put AMD back in their gimp box" Intel's ridiculous +19% IPC gains and better than AMD at gaming marketing campaign was all about, that isn't so much for us as it is for those investors and they bought into it hook line and sinker. they always do, you go to thier message boards that's what you see, an endless theme of Rocket Lake will stop AMD's DIY space dominance dead in its tracks, its all silence now but these people are just like fanboys in the PC enthusiast space, They see Intel a bit like Apple, in a position where they can endlessly jack the prices up and get more money for them, AMD are a disruption in that, Intel can't sell you $2000 CPU's anymore and they hate AMD for it, they are right to, AMD are responsible for that.
 
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