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Sir Menzies Campbell Hypocrisy

Discussion in 'Speaker's Corner' started by Tommy B, 5 Mar 2006.

  1. Tommy B

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    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/4774680.stm

    How the hell is that FAIR?

    The only possible tax system that is fair, is a fixed percentage for all. So that the man earning £10,000 pays the same 20% portion of his earnings as the man earning £100,000 a year. I personally don't have a problem with the rich paying a slightly higher percentage of their income, but for god sake it certainly isn't making our country "fairer" by raising this even more so!

    That's fair to no one but the lower class tbh.
     
  2. VIRII

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    I have a feeling that the lib dem tax take will make the labour tax take look light.
    More money for scroungers to encourage them to increase their sky subscriptions and to bang out more unwanted kids. Great.
     
  3. Tommy B

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    What I love most is when people think Gordon Brown and Labour are only taxing/hurting the rich. The people affected most by the 40% tax aren't the rich, but the middle class - a lot of people using these forums, for example. In fact, if Labour sorted out tax evasion and the poor actually paid their taxes, there probably wouldn't be a 40% tax anyway.
     
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  4. Skunkworks

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    I agree! Someone on £100,000 would already be paying 10x more tax than someone on £10,000, so why rob them even more? That doesn't include all the VAT the higher earner will be paying with their greater dispoable income. :rolleyes:
     
  5. marin

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    Good job the Liberal Democrats will never form a Government.

    I think that I pay more than my fair share in tax as it is for the present Government to P*** against the wall.
     
  6. Tommy B

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    Well that's the thing you see. That's why so many are annoyed about the high taxes. Brown seems to run the country in an economically inefficient way. I just can't believe how much money is wasted. His benefits system has more holes than a fishing net.
     
  7. Spie

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    The only fair tax is flat rate tax. The more you earn the more you pay as an equal proportion of your earnings. The current system, compounds tax liability for higher earners and fair is a word that should never be used to describe it. The LD's proposed higher rate is pure robbery.

    Oh and by the way, if you are a high rate tax payer who owns a Ltd company, currently you actually pay 52.5% tax on earnings, so the government earns more than you do. Go figure.
     
  8. Tommy B

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    Then another 17.5% on everything you buy etc. You're right... it's just daylight robbery!
     
  9. Skunkworks

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    It's not like we have a great health system, police, public transport etc to show for it either! :mad:
     
  10. nero120

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    What makes me laugh is that people decided a fair tax like the poll tax was worth rioting over, yet now we see our income literally stolen by the government and wasted on rediculous schemes that do nothing to help our country or improve our decaying infrastructure, and the people simply moan.

    I guess thats the difference between the working class and the middle class - the working class are selfish and idiotic but pro-active, the middle class is intelligent and concerned for the welfare of the country but uninspired and docile.
     
  11. valerian

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    another mediocre rehash of rubbish, neither left or right wing, massaging the demographic
     
  12. AJUK

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    Don't worry the mad lefties that infest the LibDems will never get a chance to run the country.

    Spie is right, the only fair system of tax is a flat rate and will do more for lifting people out of so called poverty, as well as allowing those who earn good money through their own hard work to enjoy it, than any socialist agenda.
     
  13. anarchist

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    But that would be far too simple to administer and hence would cost thousands of inland revenue jobs... ;)
     
  14. AJUK

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    Good, they should get real jobs instead of one that relies on ripping off the hard working people of this country.
     
  15. anarchist

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    Yip, the streets are very dirty in a lot of inner city areas ;)
     
  16. elroberto

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    Wasn't George Osbourne investigating the feasibility of introducing a flat tax system for the tories?

    I'm not a high earner and come from one of the poorest areas of the country but I think it's the only fair way to do it. The mega-rich have always used tax loopholes anyways, so perhaps with this system in place and a closing down of these loopholes, everyone will be treated fairly. If this comes in as policy I may vote conservative next time around.
     
  17. JimmyEatWorms

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    I would support a flat tax system if it was combined with a significant rise in your tax free allowance.

    However, I don't see any great requirement to change the current system.
     
  18. Tommy B

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    That's a good point. If tax was flat rate, the rich wouldn't feel like they were being unfairly robbed, and hence money wouldn't "vanish"
     
  19. Stolly

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    In his first act as Libdem leader, he scuppers his chances of doing well at the next election.

    Got to love these clueless lefties.
     
  20. Stolly

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    Yup, with a flat tax there would be less incentive for taking money offshore, and richer people may well find the UK a more attractive place to live work and invest. Thats what many lefties cannot see. Wealth redistribution may be a noble aim (well not really) but the reality doesn't work.