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socket 1156 or 1366 for non overclocker

Discussion in 'CPUs' started by darren.head, 6 Oct 2009.

  1. darren.head

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    Hi,
    I have a friend who is ready to put together a system purely for gaming. He is not interested in overclocking at all.
    Do you think he'd be better off with a system based on a socket 1156 cpu due to their more agressive turbo modes. As i said he will not be overclocking and will have a single gpu.

    He has approx £650 to spend on cpu, mem, motherboard and gpu. He will be gaming @ 1920 x 1080
    Cheers!
     
  2. Pete.Dakota

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    Not to pry, but why does he not want to overclock? It's a great way of getting more power for your money; great if you're on a budget.

    The ability to OC the i5, for instance, is the reason it's so great for gaming: it's way cheaper than an i7 and won't bottleneck the GPU.
     
  3. darren.head

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    I know, its just something he's never done and it doesn't interest him!:confused:
    if he goes for i5 he could maybe get 5870, if he goes for 1366 socket i7 he can afford 5850. But would a socket 1366 system be a wiser long term investment?
     
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  4. coupe69

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    If it's purely for gaming it's a no brainer, get core i5 750 and an ATi 5870. P55 and 1156 socket cpu's should be around for a while yet, as it's only just been released.
     
  5. timaloy

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    im in the same position going to start a new build next week think ill go for th i7 dont know how much of a differnce there is though
     
  6. Pete.Dakota

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    In gaming, hardly any. But that's if you OC the i5 up to about 3.4ghz or higher.
     
  7. Typhoon

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    The article in the CPC magazine this month suggests that you you should be buying a 1366 for gaming with significant increases in framerates over 1156 at the same clocks.
     
  8. Pete.Dakota

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    Is that taking into consideration overclocking?
     
  9. blaineoliver

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    AMD for a non overclocker, because you can actually turn the multi up x1 and you will be running faster, and you will have a fast, easily upgradable system, especially with a phenom II x4 955.
     
  10. faugusztin

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    @blaine, do you know about Turbo mode of Intel CPU's ? :)
    @Typhoon, that is true when you have 4870x2 in crossfire or GTX295 in SLI - when you are limited by 2x PCI-E x8 SLI/CF@P55 vs 2x PCI-E x16 SLI/CF@X58. With single card there is zero difference between those chipsets in terms of graphic cards.

    I would suggest S1156 for OP due one simple reason - power usage. Core 2 Duo + Asus P5Q-E + HD4870 was using 190W. Core i5 750 + Gigabyte P55-UD5 + HD5870 ? 117W !
     
  11. coupe69

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    This goes against everything I've read in the past few weeks since the new 1156 socket core i5 and core i7's have been released, and trust me I've read a hell of a lot. The difference in gaming has been proven to be minimal definately not significant :confused:
     
  12. faugusztin

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    coupe69, there is a difference - with the SLI/CF of dual cards. But how many of us do that ?
     
  13. coupe69

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    Yes there is a difference, but again that is very minimal. See here makes for very interesting reading, especially if you are intending to CF or SLi on the P55 platform ;)
     
  14. faugusztin

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    I do know about that article, but i specifically talk about the dual cards - they are more data hungry than HD5870, even if it doesn't look like that. So the differences between x8 and x16 are more visible for those 2 cards.
     
  15. coupe69

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    What are these dual cards you talk of? Ones that haven't yet been released?

    At the end of the day a 5870 trades blows with a 295 in quite a few games, so I doubt the results are going to be too much different with a 295.

    Granted if you're considering going down the quad sli or quad CF route with the yet to be released dual gpu cards, then you might gain slightly more fps with X58 platform, but to be fair if you're considering this option you've obviously got enough money to blow on full fat 9 series i7 :p
     
  16. Random Guy

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    I would beg to differ :)

    AnandTech has done an analysis of this very recently with the new 5870s.

    http://www.anandtech.com/mb/showdoc.aspx?i=3649
     
  17. Typhoon

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    I had a look at the CPC article again and yes it is indeed the GTX280 SLi and 4870xfire tests where the the 1366 is ahead (though in the article they claim that 8x PCI lanes on the 1156 should not be bottle necking these dual cards), and neck and neck with a single GTX280. These are with HT turned off.
     
  18. Daegan

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    Definitely. Triple-channel DDR3 won't make any difference until hex-core Gulftown CPUs, the extra PCIe lanes with an LGA 1366 setup aren't needed for a single GPU, and the relative ease with which you can overclock Bloomfield CPU's doesn't matter if he won't be doing it. LGA 1156 all the way.
     
  19. jamiehavok

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    i think the i7-8 series on the 1156 platform have a better turbo mode, so if your not overclocking the i7-8 series can benchmark faster than the 920 both at stock, but i7 920s are so easy to overclock i dont see why you wouldnt want to even f its just a bit like me!