hey guys, been looking at building a machine for my dad to replace his ageing lappy with celeron processor and no RAM. so far drawn up this as a basic spec, but i'd like to reduce the cost a bit without sacrificing performance for what he wants to use it for. His needs for the machine are minimal really, just needs to be quick and responsive for office applications, the net, and some very basic photo/video manip software. AMD (Venice) Athlon 64Bit 3200+ Socket 939pin £113.18 ASUS A8N-E Ultra £65.95 Geil Value 1GB (2x512) £61.65 WD 250GB SATA2 HDD £62.96 NEC 4551 DVD-RW £33.48 Antec SLK case (NO PSU) £32.39 Acer AL1716S 17" 12ms 500:1 (1280x1024) £140.99 480W Hiper Type-R PSU £43.12 Logitech MX 510 mouse w/Steelpad S&S £29.32 Saitek Eclipse keyboard £29.32 Logitech budget speakers £8.17 PNY Verto GeForce FX 5500 128MB DDR PCI TV-Out Retail £34.00 total : £654.23 All above prices are inc VAT erm basically i'd like to get the cost to roughly £600 is possible. I'm not sure how this would be achieved but I guess that's why i'm posting here. I also need to get it into my dads head that buying a machine from some competitor (such as the indian food or the purple shirt people) would just disappoint him after a while and would need replacing again. I guess the price could be reduced by perhaps looking at a mobo which provides onboard graphics as the system won't be playing games at all besides maybe sollitaire or something like that. thanks for your time all, Chris.