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Diesel versus hybrid/electrification?! Have you seen what’s happened to used ZOE and Leaf prices now whilst pre EU6 diesels are at risk with the emerging ZEV zone plans.
this is article I had read https://www.popularmechanics.com/ca...7039/tesla-battery-emissions-study-fake-news/
presumably ev batteries can be re-cycled which they don't seem to consider.
stop/start - I don't have it, but, as a frequent cyclist, often see people especially at roundabouts, (firstly stopping because they can't judge the traffic ) emerging dangerously because of the 1s pause as the engine restarts.
the prius has been around a while, but despite that, the example I gave still sees similar 50p running cost to a yaris (ok that's a bit smaller)
EU6 and soon EU7 diesels are very clean.
I don't experience any pausing when driving off, the Prius does it seamlessly at any speed.
The actual running cost of a Prius and a Yaris being more or less the same at 50p a mile is an unfair comparison really, it takes into account the initial cost of a Prius with with all the bells & whistles.
But actual running costs are way lower regarding fuel, my current Prius is road tax exempt also
No. They are cleaner compared to a EU4 diesel but they still horrendous for local air quality. No vehicle is ‘clean’, they all have an impact even BEVs.
I had been referring to stop/start pause from the diesel post ... I wouldn't have expected a hybrid to pause. ..For some reason the CH-R hybrid has that pause as well. The Prius doesn't seem to get it even though it's the same system.
yes its a good point about saving on congestion charges, until next year, anyway for hybrids in londonHave you seen what’s happened to used ZOE and Leaf prices now whilst pre EU6 diesels
I. I wouldn't have expected a hybrid to pause. ..
how does it know your intention pulling away ?, in town maybe the electric motor would suffice, but especially on faster roads, I would not want an indeterminant pause whilst it made its mind up, even slotting into a gap on 30mph town traffic might be unpredictable, you need to know what power you will get, to avoid too fast, or too slow.
Diesel versus hybrid/electrification?! Have you seen what’s happened to used ZOE and Leaf prices now whilst pre EU6 diesels are at risk with the emerging ZEV zone plans.
Much of the price rises could be down to their limited availability.
While there are a few thousand Renault Zoes and Nissan eNV200s registered on UK roads, there are just 422 Peugeot i0ns and 225 Citroen C-Zeros, according to Howmanyleft.co.uk.
Just nine used iOns are currently listed on Auto Trader for sale and there are only two C-Zeros
you had said .. Nasher had said, his did, which was why I commented.Maybe some makes of hybrids do pause before accelerating
The question is though,
if total hybrid ownership cost is not significantly/less than equiavlent petrols, because the higher depreciation offsets the fuel saving, then the choice becomes an environmental one ? maybe - albeit for a model3 (ok full ev) the addtional battery environmental cost represents driving a 2L car, A6 was the xample they gave, for 30K miles.
EU6 and soon EU7 diesels are very clean. The proven damage you speak of was only the revelation that VAG were cheating the tests on their EU5 and 6 diesels. But now people and governments tar all diesels with the same brush.
I am not sure most people understand the gravity of what VAG did with their emissions cheating. To date, no other manufacturer has been found guilty of the same, and they have all been investigated at some level. A lot of people say "they're all at it" but that simply isn't true.
this is article I had read https://www.popularmechanics.com/ca...7039/tesla-battery-emissions-study-fake-news/
presumably ev batteries can be re-cycled which they don't seem to consider.
stop/start - I don't have it, but, as a frequent cyclist, often see people especially at roundabouts, (firstly stopping because they can't judge the traffic ) emerging dangerously because of the 1s pause as the engine restarts.
you think ? like with more complex car electronics + turbos/dpf's, a 2nd hand hybrid post warranty seems risky, versus a NA petrol.
the prius has been around a while, but despite that, the example I gave still sees similar 50p running cost to a yaris (ok that's a bit smaller)
inconclusive used ev/hybrid value article https://www.thisismoney.co.uk/money...Zoe-tops-used-electric-cars-rising-value.html
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you had said .. Nasher had said, his did, which was why I commented.
50-70 out of town, overtake acceleration is where I would look on a test drive, inner city with average speeds like Cambridge, most cars are up to it.
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The reason I say BEVs have an impact is because they still have all the particulates that come of the tyres and brakes which impact air quality.
When my neighbor starts up his bmw diesel I can taste it from my driveway and I live in a detached home. That's just from idling and start up.
It makes me feel sick and cough.
I've never felt the same when I start my petrol or the wife's hybrid.
It's even worse when he drives off. The amount of crap coming out the back makes me rush indoors. As I don't want to breathing it in.
Nasher had made the comment, about his hybridI've never had any pause in power and have no idea what you are talking about.
Certainly not all - the brake dust from BEVs (or anything with brake regen) is much much reduced over a pure ICE.
He must have a very old one. Who knew that old cars kick crap out the back?
Nasher had made the comment, about his hybrid
But stop/start on ICE cars, which is how the discussion started, is problematic pulling ot on junctions .... I spend maybe 15minutes a week watching it,
halfway point on regular run, people see a gap and have a false start, because they didn't accomodate the re-start timed in their brains, or moreover ensure stop/start was not operating at that moment. ... gooid to hear mostr hybrids don't have an issue.
with increased supply of evs / hybrids this year market should re-balance for 2nd hand values ... a shiny new id3 on pcp, or a 2nd hand xxxxxxxx