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Spec Me a small Development Server

Discussion in 'General Hardware' started by toosepin, 22 Aug 2011.

  1. toosepin

    Hitman

    Joined: 9 Jun 2006

    Posts: 954

    Location: Manchester

    Hey guys, not sure if this is the correct section but here it goes.

    We're looking for a small development server for our in house web development. A simple headless tower will do, something like 8Gb of RAM and a quad-core would be suitable.

    It will be running CentOS and we'd be mainly running Apache with MySQL and PHP.

    It will need a decent size HDD (I presume a decent speed might be a requirement) as we'll be running version control.

    Would we be able to get the above in a 200-300 (possibly a bit more) budget? Is that even possible?
     
    Last edited: 22 Aug 2011
  2. stulid

    Capo Crimine

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    Good enough?

    £355 with free delivery.

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    Or AMD,


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    £300 with free delivery.
     
  3. kohlditz

    Mobster

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    Can just get a VM with someone like Vidahost as an alternative, I run my SVN and LAMP stack on one - think I pay £15 a month or so for it.
     
  4. toosepin

    Hitman

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    Location: Manchester

    We currently have a very powerful external hosting solution for our clients, this solution would purely be for in-house local development before pushing updates to our live setup.
     
  5. toosepin

    Hitman

    Joined: 9 Jun 2006

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    Location: Manchester

    That's great thanks! How do you feel either spec would fair for upgrades.

    We would quite like the ability to expand the storage, maybe introduce a raid config - upgrade the processor later if needed and keep upping the RAM as we see fit.

    It's not something that has to be hugely powerful, it will be a simple fine-tuned LAMP stack with SVN and some update control via an FTP configuration.

    We do deal with huge SQL queries at times and we will be running about 10-50 key client sites on the box - albeit they wont be in use at once, mostly just stored on the box and then accessed as we start development on individual client sites.
     
  6. stulid

    Capo Crimine

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    Last edited: 22 Aug 2011
  7. Entropy

    Gangster

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    I would reckon its worth getting a second samsung f3 and running raid. You don't want a server going down and loosing data especially if its concerning business interests
     
  8. kohlditz

    Mobster

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    Just because you don't host it, doesn't mean you can't use it internally. Depends on how much traffic you need to push over SVN really.
     
  9. toosepin

    Hitman

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    We have a external backup solution with our current IT support company doing nightly backups to an external location, we'd also probably have an internal backup solution, maybe just mirroring the drive at the end of each day or possibly half a day and me or one of the other heads would take it home. We'd only be pushing a few hundred MB of new data to the live servers each day. I think something local would be better for speed?

    That's why raid appeals to me, but if that's going to alter the price much then we'd probably hold out for that one.

    This will basically be an experiment to see if we're comfortable with a headless tower in the office for running our development environement, currently we run a high spec Windows Server 2003 rack with a WAMP setup, but we'd quite like to see about seperating the two servers.
     
  10. kohlditz

    Mobster

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    Just the voice of experience here, best to keep dev environment and live environment as close as possible. All sorts of weird gremlins can sneak in when there's differences.
     
  11. durbs

    Hitman

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    Get a Proliant ML110 G6 server new for £180 then spend the extra on upping the memory and adding a couple of 500 gig disks in RAID to it. Perfect dev web box and SVN server machine and built for the job.
     
  12. toosepin

    Hitman

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    Sorry for bumping, trying to recreate the specs up top but with in-stock suff, what do you guys think? Any more cost-effective solutions?


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  13. Socrates470BC

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    Memory not compatible with board or Processor.

    Sandybridge i3/15/i7 1155 sockets only support dual channel memory, so usually either 2 sticks of memory or four sticks of memory.

    However the MSI H61M-E33 Intel H61 (Socket 1155) only supports TWO sticks of unbuffered DIMM of 1.5 Volt DDR3 1066/1333 DRAM, 16GB Max (assuming that you can find 8GB sticks of memory)