Starting Wow afresh on new server - tips

saguy · 3 Feb 2006 at 19:13

Edward78 said:
If PvP is your thing WoW isn't your game.

I thought it was the other way round but I know nothing.

Pixel · 3 Feb 2006 at 19:28

If you choose a Mage, you'll own up until level 55, that's when all other classes will surpass you by default and you become the joke class of WoW. Even trying to compete with other classes like Priests and Warlocks will require months of item farming, and even then that green "of the eagle" wearing level 52 Warlock is going to beat you wearing your full Netherwind set.

If you want magic, choose Priest or Warlock, if you want melee, choose Rogue.

saguy · 3 Feb 2006 at 19:45

Rouge it is

Anim · 3 Feb 2006 at 20:22

Every class is just as good as each other if played WELL. Some classes beat certain other classes but its a rock paper scissors way of doing things, dont blame the class, blame the player.

Supercow · 3 Feb 2006 at 20:40

Hunters rawk imo, since the rock paper scissors thing doesnt apply as much, since every class can beat you, and you can beat every class, you just have to play well

saguy · 3 Feb 2006 at 22:00

I will not be playing PVP at all so beating other class players is not an issue. I am looking for a class that is fun, easy to level and play solo.

Keep the suggestions rolling folks.

Hixxy · 3 Feb 2006 at 22:26

Pixel said:
If you choose a Mage, you'll own up until level 55, that's when all other classes will surpass you by default and you become the joke class of WoW. Even trying to compete with other classes like Priests and Warlocks will require months of item farming, and even then that green "of the eagle" wearing level 52 Warlock is going to beat you wearing your full Netherwind set.

If you want magic, choose Priest or Warlock, if you want melee, choose Rogue.

LTP anyway mages are the next hunter.

CliffyG · 3 Feb 2006 at 23:36

Rogues are most pointless class in end game.

Whitewater · 3 Feb 2006 at 23:37

CliffyG said:
Rogues are most pointless class in end game.

Why?

Anim · 4 Feb 2006 at 00:27

Is that like saying priests are pointless endgame?

CliffyG · 4 Feb 2006 at 00:44

Whitewater said:
Why?

Because in the big instances they require too much healing against boss mobs with aoe's (which most have). When we do ZG runs we take only 2 with us out of fairness but if we had a choice we wouldnt and would replace with a class that can dps at range and add utility. Same as MC really, just use them to pad out the raids. Rogues just dont add anything that another class cant do better. They are good in PvP though.

Anim said:
Is that like saying priests are pointless endgame?

Obviously not.

Anim · 4 Feb 2006 at 10:36

That is such a lie, obviously your rogues arent playing properly. On 90% of bosses rogues are the main source of damage, if i'm leading ZG i'll try to get 4 rogues with us as theyre so useful for every boss except hakkar. In molten core the only boss they dont do much on is shazzrah but if they have a healer each they can still do a fair bit of damage.
Rogues do damage that no other class can match.

CliffyG · 4 Feb 2006 at 11:05

What do you mean they aren't playing properly? How are your rogues avoiding AoE damage and the need to be healed lol? Rogues can be outdamaged by many classes that won't need healing, even a DPS specced warrior can out DPS a rogue and has loads more hp and armour.

I'm not saying they dont add anything but every other class adds more in my opinion.

Matmulder · 4 Feb 2006 at 11:13

even a DPS specced warrior can out DPS a rogue and has loads more hp and armour.

What? I've yet to come across any Warrior - Fury specced or not - that can even come *close* to matching my damage as a Combat-spec Rogue. And if they're trying to out-damage me, they're not doing their job properly.

The best warriors I've ever played with don't really do much damage. They keep the aggro and take a pounding. Makes everyones life so much easier, including the priests who only have to concentrate healing on them. Leaves me free to do my 150dps and 2000 point crits without fear of getting tons of aggro.

CliffyG · 4 Feb 2006 at 11:22

There's a big difference between a traditional "Tank" and a DPS warrior. Generally you only need 1 tank with a backup unless encounters need more (Tiger boss in ZG for instance).

Personally i'm of the opinion that if you play a warrior you should be a tank but in WoW prot specced Warriors aren't the norm.

Ranged DPS is far more useful, hunters do massive damage as do locks and with their curse of elements means the mages do even more damage. Plus they are all out of range of the bosses AoE's.

Edward78 · 4 Feb 2006 at 17:43

saguy said:
I thought it was the other way round but I know nothing.

Nope, WoW is a PvE game (a single player RPG with a MMO engine thrown in)

Lord-Jaffa · 4 Feb 2006 at 18:54

Coming from someone who has multiple 60s in a guild thats cleared BWL multiple times if i had to do it again there is only two classes you should even consider, Warrior and Warlock.

Warlock is unbeatable 1v1 and can two or at most three shot any class once you have the gear.

BFCTom · 4 Feb 2006 at 19:32

Rogues useless? No way, they do insane PvE damage.

(Has killed Nefarian multiple times).

Anim · 4 Feb 2006 at 19:38

Hunter and warlocks dont do as much damage as a rogue, hunters can get close but give them equal equipment and a rogue will take the edge. I was saying if a rogue isnt topping the damage meters, they are doing something wrong or have much worse gear than whoever is at the top.

Warriors, 2 is about average except for 5man instances. Protection spec is worthless, MS can do the same job just fine even in BWL.

BFCTom · 4 Feb 2006 at 20:21

Yeah, our MT is MS Spec.