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T/take Tai-Chi Water OR Water Cooling and T/Take Tsunami Dream?

Discussion in 'Case Central' started by StevenG, 27 Jan 2006.

  1. StevenG

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    Was looking to buy the above case as it would save me the hastle of installing a water cooling system (that i havnt done before) but if i am about to waste my money please let me know??

    i currently have the tsunami dream case
     
  2. WJA96

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    Get a real watercooling solution. The Thermaltake kit is OK, better than air, but for not a lot more money you can get real watercooling which will be substantially better than air.

    Ask this on the cooling/overclocking forum and you'll get a very short answer ;)
     
  3. Yewen

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    If you add to that, and buy a real case. Then thats perfect.

    Unless you really like the looks of the thermaltake, they are always full of loads of features which dont really aid anything. Like the watercooling.

    Go for no features and add you own :D PC7se, its a case. Very well built and looks subtle.

    But that is my opinion. Thermaltake for me bar one case is a no buy. There high end is majorly overpriced.
     
  4. kdd

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    Actually the water cooling with the tai chi performs pretty well, it has a very powerful pump and a massive rad. Works as well as many water cooling kits that would cost much more.
     
  5. Yewen

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    Not really, its the same as topish end air, it cant compete really with the dedicated kits.

    Only appeal really is the integration between the two units.
     
  6. DaveMac

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    Care to share those test site links?
     
  7. Raikiri

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  8. Yewen

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    Im not disputing that it is as good as top end air :p

    But it cant compete with a similarly priced custom system, or most of the swiftech kits.

    Just the whole package is a little overpriced.

    (It may seem that I hate Tt but im considering one for a build im going to do, and before you ask. Im not saying which model I am selling out to!)
     
  9. Raikiri

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    Hehe, tsunami is quite nice isnt it :)
     
  10. Yewen

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    Haha!

    Go on then, how you work that one out?
     
  11. Raikiri

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    The one without a window is the nearest one to a Lian li/CM. Looks a bit like a cross of the wavemaster and a basic lian li
     
  12. Yewen

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    :D

    Its only a consideration.

    The shortlist is a Tsunami, v800 (IF I can get one in the UK) or a custom Lian Li.

    But the Tsunami is the cheapest, but the Custom Lian Li is the most appealing, but at £400+
     
  13. Raikiri

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    just saw the v800 for $140, dont know if they ship to the uk though. As for the custom lian li were you going to get one anodized?
     
  14. Yewen

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    Yeh looking at getting one done by Phil sometime, if its now or six months though I just dont know.

    He cant do the v1000+ otherwise I would already have one!

    And the shipping + tax on import makes the case overpriced. Just gotta wait for someone to get it in stock in the UK or Europe. OcUK are not getting any in, that idea fell through unfortunately.
     
  15. WJA96

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    If you really want a case with built-in water cooling then the Koolance PC-3 range will give you a good case (Silverstone or Lian-Li) and a good water cooling system.

    That Xbit labs review is very interesting as all of a sudden the Big Typhoon is performing pretty badly. Most other reviews have it doing Mid-50's on that processor.

    They also positively reviewed a Coolermaster kit in a similar way, and I bought that and it was very poor.

    Also - he claims a big improvement (3C) on some tests but then a 6C worsening on the HDD test is said to be "so small as not worth worrying about."

    These guys get kit to test because they get the stuff attention. They are actually sponsored by Tt. When Toms Hardware say it's good, I'll look at it.
     
  16. Yewen

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    THG are not always that reliable, you have to work out why they are reviewing it first, as sometimes they subtly alter the wording to make the product seem better. But I will agree between them and Anandtech they are the only ones I trust.
     
  17. Simps

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    What PSU is recommended for the water cooled version of this case please ?
     
  18. Yewen

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    How much money you got to spend?
     
  19. Simps

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    I already have a 480W enermax, Just wondering if this would be OK or not.
     
  20. Yewen

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    Depending on your system, you need to make sure it is ATX 2.0 compliant.

    What model is it exactly do you know?