Teacher's and arrogance ?

[Deiwos]

And ruin the teachers career over blocking a few websites? Very intelligent

Quite. As much as I understand the poster was probably joking, for those of us in the profession it seems like we live in fear of allegations being made against us, probably because of comments like the above being made.

Just the other day a student punched me because I put my hand on her shoulder and asked her to get with her work. I didn't report it as I'd probably get in more trouble than she would!

 

[Deiwos]

I use proxys and
This:

((Img of Sawell))

But our IT system, although a 'Technology School', is still rubbish, and, with a little intelect and nerding you can even get around the web/email block if your account is blocked.

If your school found out you were proxying to get around their security, even if you consider it a joke, you'd be in a whole world of ****.

 

[Tombstone]

Hehehe, your school could do with tightening itself up a touch. The software we use would pick up what you are doing regardless of how scrunched up it is on the taskbar and would alert one of the Techs. The proxy (in the small chance that it worked anyway) would also be instantly picked up and blocked

 

[Tombstone]

Just the other day a student punched me because I put my hand on her shoulder and asked her to get with her work. I didn't report it as I'd probably get in more trouble than she would!

Are you sure it was her shoulder, maybe she had a REALLY push up bra on

 

[xJcBx]

If your school found out you were proxying to get around their security, even if you consider it a joke, you'd be in a whole world of ****.

I/we have been, many times. We have about 10 accounts because of people leaving last year and leaving us their PW's (I'm in upper 6th last year now)

Therefore our username doesn't represent us, or anybody who is at the school. Add to this the fact that every time they use any sort of screen watching software all windows go un-fullscreen and then fullscreen again, its an absolute giveaway that we're being watched.

The only times we ever use proxys anymore is for websites that we need for school that the stupid filter system blocks (You'd be surprised how many this is, especially when researching for Computing and the laws in IT, and case studies of hackers for examples)

Websites that I use that aren't blocked - OCUK, Proxies, Wiki, MSN hotmail, google searches for anything (if you put a space between each letter it still searches for the same thing but isn't picked up by the filter, only really for 1 word searches effectively.).

For facebook/youtube we have phones with 3G + contract (***)

I would, however agree with PMKeates on the matter. Write a short letter to them about why you were viewing them.

If I'm ever caught I usually emphasize how much I need the Internet for 2/3 of my A-Levels (IT, Computer & Psychology)

 

[Tombstone]

Crikey, your places IT dept really do need to get their acts together.

Those people who have left should have had their accounts disabled immediately upon leaving.

They should change their software to software which has no visible signs of usage. Really slack IT dept you have there. Give me a shout if they need a technical advisor

 

[rypt]

Schools suck

I got banned from using the IT rooms outside of lessons for about half a year when I was at school due to "attempting to infect the network with a virus", when in reality all I was doing was disassembling a virus inside a VM
I didn't need to infect the network with a virus anyway, I had all the network admin passwords due to running the computer gaming club and thus setting up the server to packet sniff all the passwords for all the users
The server was connected without any filtering in the way, so it also ran a proxy that select (note people I like) could use that could access anything.


Our school then went as far as preventing you running any unauthorised EXE files, when I promptly found a custom windows shell work around for.

 

[Tombstone]

I had all the network admin passwords due to running the computer gaming club and thus setting up the server to packet sniff all the passwords for all the users

Heheh, sounds like they were probably right to ban you then in the long run

Our school then went as far as preventing you running any unauthorised EXE files, when I promptly found a custom windows shell work around for.

Yep, we block unauthorised exes too

 

[xJcBx]

I had all the network admin passwords due to running the computer gaming club and thus setting up the server to packet sniff all the passwords for all the users

Damn thats a good idea.

 

[Stellios]

I had a similar problem back in school. A teacher I had in geography used to hate racism of any sort (fair enough), but one day she started a discussion on how the over population of the UK could be kept to a reasonable level. I responded with a comment of "put a quota on immigration", which I thought to be fair since some countries are doing it and she went spare with me with the responded of "one more word like that and youll never set foot in this classroom again". Personally I thought it was a valid suggestion considering the topic. It wasnt said in a racist way at all, but she thought I had overstepped the bound!

 

[rypt]

Damn thats a good idea.

School ran RM based stuff that was sending passwords around in plain text
I also found that my maths teacher was subscribed to porn email stuffs on his school address

I also knew more than my IT teacher, and was a bit of a **** and made him look bad by pointing out whenever he was wrong and so on

When revising for GCSE IT (such a useless course) he was giving out Mars bars for the first person to give correct answers to the questions, so I proceeded to answer them all and get all the MArs bars .

 

[Tombstone]

RM based stuff.

Ahhhh...that explains A LOT. Those 2 dreaded letters.

 

[ian.lewkowicz]

If your school found out you were proxying to get around their security, even if you consider it a joke, you'd be in a whole world of ****.

World of **** doesn't begin to describe it.

It's technically hacking (as far as I know) and as such if the school wanted to make an example of it could potentially report it to the police. Most schools won't because they wouldn't want the bad publicity either.

As for what the OP has asked. Check out your acceptable use policy? If it says that your not allowed to use the internet for personal use then really you don't have a leg to stand on so you'll just have to hope they are lenient

The only times we ever use proxys anymore is for websites that we need for school that the stupid filter system blocks (You'd be surprised how many this is, especially when researching for Computing and the laws in IT, and case studies of hackers for examples)

Whether you use them for legitimate websites or not, your still hacking around something that's put there for your safety and as such, would still be treated the same way. There is bound to be a form to fill out or person to ask to get legitimate websites un-blocked

For facebook/youtube we have phones with 3G + contract (***)

That's not of concern to the IT lot, that's down to the parents buying the phone for you and the teachers (if your doing it in a lesson) that your meant to be working for at that time

If I'm ever caught I usually emphasize how much I need the Internet for 2/3 of my A-Levels (IT, Computer & Psychology)

Again, this wouldn't matter to some people. You could say you broke into a house and stole something because you needed to eat, end of the day you still broke the law and will get punished accordingly

 

[rypt]

Ahhhh...that explains A LOT. Those 2 dreaded letters.

Ranger Suite, still RM though, was a bit harder to crack into I must admit, but the school only moved onto it in the final year I was there anyway, same year they got a new technie who I liked and who gave him password anyway as he was cool

 

[Tombstone]

Ranger Suite, still RM though, was a bit harder to crack into I must admit, but the school only moved onto it in the final year I was there anyway, same year they got a new technie who I liked and who gave him password anyway as he was cool

Yup..RM are the bane of my career. Done everything I can over the decades to ensure the schools I have been involved in have had nothing to do with RM. Utterly cack company. Explains why your place was so easily bypassed.

 

[xJcBx]

World of **** doesn't begin to describe it.

It's technically hacking (as far as I know) and as such if the school wanted to make an example of it could potentially report it to the police. Most schools won't because they wouldn't want the bad publicity either.

Sorry mate, but in my eyes, the only crime at school is getting caught.
If your ignorant enough to get yourself caught, then, tbh, you shouldn't be trying.

RM. Utterly cack company. Explains why your place was so easily bypassed.

We have RM at school, as you can tell its pathetic and so easy to bypass. I really want to look into more about this password packet sniffing business now though, just for funzies. I'll have a crack at it the next time i'm after school for computing (Best idea the school have had is to use a virtual machine (connected to the network) so that we can debug, compile + run our C/VB/Pascal/Java programs. You bet we have a fun time mocking RM from within a VM.)

 

[Tombstone]

We have RM at school, as you can tell its pathetic and so easy to bypass.

Yeah...its absolutely disheartening to me that RM have won so many of the BSF contracts around the country as part of the governments oh so wonderful building schools for the future plan.

My tip to the government...if you want schools for the future, the very last thing you should be doing is letting RM within 250m of a school.

 

[PermaBanned]

I hate it how the IT staff know nothing about IT and somehow everybody else manages to know even less.

I also hate how our government signed a contract with Microsoft for their software to be used in schools.

 

[Tombstone]

I hate it how the IT staff know nothing about IT and somehow everybody else manages to know even less.

I also hate how our government signed a contract with Microsoft for their software to be used in schools.

Not all of us know nothing. Though admittedly there are some very poor IT staff around who really have no right being in the job. There are also some extremely talented, very knowledgable IT staff around, but they are somewhat more rare.

We use both MS and OSS

 

[djkav]

You could begin by pointing out that there's nothing wrong with Torrenting, it's just a faster way of downloading large files than via traditional HTML. It entirely depends on the content if it violates any law or not.

I agree, many donwloads come in torrent p2p form. Take the World of Warcraft updates, they are downloaded as a torrent.