Terminator: Dark Fate

Gerard · 21 Oct 2019 at 17:54

Steampunk said:
Wait for real reviews, not the access media doing their usual virtue signalling because it's full of "strong women".

Or, go and see it yourself and make up your own mind? Mind blowing concept i know! :eek:

checjb · 21 Oct 2019 at 17:56

At £12.50-15.00 per ticket I think I'll wait on some trusted reviews before I even consider that option. Cinema is great but it's just too expensive nowadays. I haven't been for years except when I get hugely discounted tickets via things like Living Social (£9 for 2 tickets).

Steampunk · 21 Oct 2019 at 18:30

Gerard said:
Or, go and see it yourself and make up your own mind? Mind blowing concept i know!

I've got better things to do with my time and money than to encourage Hollywood to keep making crappy sequels by going to see every bit of dross they put out. If people I trust want to see it and say it's good, then I can invest my time, if not, it can wait till it's free to air.

By falling into the old "pay the money and make up your own mind" trap, all you're doing is exactly what they want - giving them your money before you know if it's worth precious hours of your life that you'll never get back.

Gerard · 21 Oct 2019 at 21:35

Steampunk said:
By falling into the old "pay the money and make up your own mind" trap, all you're doing is exactly what they want - giving them your money before you know if it's worth precious hours of your life that you'll never get back.

Bit dramatic.

IvanDobskey · 22 Oct 2019 at 08:44

Steampunk said:
I've got better things to do with my time and money than to encourage Hollywood to keep making crappy sequels by going to see every bit of dross they put out. If people I trust want to see it and say it's good, then I can invest my time, if not, it can wait till it's free to air.

By falling into the old "pay the money and make up your own mind" trap, all you're doing is exactly what they want - giving them your money before you know if it's worth precious hours of your life that you'll never get back.

This exactly.

I don't bother rushing out to see movies anymore for this very reason.

They are mostly a let down these days.

Glanza · 22 Oct 2019 at 08:45

Booked to watch Saturday morning in 4dx.

No1newts · 22 Oct 2019 at 15:58

I gave up on terminator a fair while ago but out of interest how come it's getting handed over to a woman, I thought the whole thing was about John Connor?

Is it, another, alternate story with no John Connor or something?

kurosagi01 · 22 Oct 2019 at 16:15

ianh said:
The answer is a very large and potentially film spoiling "SPOILER" so only open this if you want to ruin the film's surprises -

"Carl" is a a new terminator sent back to just after T2 times at the start of the new film and he does eventually Kill John Connor. Once his "mission" is over and JC is dead, he has no further commands to follow so he effectively "retires" and after a few decades to adjust, becomes "Carl", a lone backwoods man at peace with humans - Like I said, it's garbage!

No1newts said:
I gave up on terminator a fair while ago but out of interest how come it's getting handed over to a woman, I thought the whole thing was about John Connor?

Is it, another, alternate story with no John Connor or something?

Check out ianh quote that i've quoted for a potential spoiler if its true and if it is true then its utter BS and it's just another excuse of altering the lore for one timeline.

Admiral Huddy · 22 Oct 2019 at 16:18

checjb said:
At £12.50-15.00 per ticket I think I'll wait on some trusted reviews before I even consider that option. Cinema is great but it's just too expensive nowadays. I haven't been for years except when I get hugely discounted tickets via things like Living Social (£9 for 2 tickets).

It's a night out.. beats sitting in.. If you [when I say you, I don't mean you personally, but everyone in general] were to think this way over everything, you'd never do anything.. and what a boring life.

Steampunk · 22 Oct 2019 at 16:20

Gerard said:
Bit dramatic.

I'm old enough to have been through it time and time again. It's standard marketing ie "how do you know you won't like it until you give us your money and make your own mind up? HA HA, now we've got your money, and you didn't like it anyway!"

Gerard · 22 Oct 2019 at 16:23

kurosagi01 said:
Check out ianh quote that i've quoted for a potential spoiler if its true and if it is true then its utter BS and it's just another excuse of altering the lore for one timeline.

Well lets face it, its a series of movies based around time travel that never really made much sense. Think about this, in Terminator 1 the movie ends with the Terminator getting crushed and that ends up being how the Terminators get created with Cyberdyne reverse engineering their own future tech from the crushed Terminator, so if it needed to be sent back through time to be created in the first place how was it ever in the future to begin with?

The loss of one character really makes little to no difference, if you're bunging time travel into the equation this could easily be rectified in future movies, i think the loss of that one character is probably a temporary thing, assuming this movie is a success.

No1newts · 22 Oct 2019 at 16:35

kurosagi01 said:
Check out ianh quote that i've quoted for a potential spoiler if its true and if it is true then its utter BS and it's just another excuse of altering the lore for one timeline.

Yeah sounds rubbish

Think I'll keep my "can't be bothered with terminator" approach up and maybe, maybe watch it at some point on sky/Netflix/Amazon or whatever it appears on in the future.

Midlife Crisis · 22 Oct 2019 at 16:59

It will be interesting to see how well this does at the cinema.

VincentHanna · 22 Oct 2019 at 18:26

Re-watched 'The Terminator' on Sunday night and re-watching T2 (4k) tonight in the hopes that this is well reviewed.

Odeon limitless card means I'm likely to go anyway, even if it's average.

Meddling-Monk · 23 Oct 2019 at 01:02

Bad news. Apparently those vfx we saw in the trailer, were the final product.

*shakes head*

At least I can throw egg on Cameron though now...

doodah · 23 Oct 2019 at 09:20

Reviews are certainly better than I expected, the ones I have seen so far are saying it's the best of the lot post T2 (which to be fair isn't a particularly high bar).

ElliorR · 23 Oct 2019 at 13:09

I'm going tonight. The Terminator is my favourite film, I went twice in the first week it was released in the UK in 1985, and I've seen it over 100 times so I will always go see Terminator films and hope for the best.

VincentHanna · 23 Oct 2019 at 14:01

100 times! Yikes.

I guess I must have seen it about 20 times. I'm sure I recorded it off TV in the early 90's

ianh · 23 Oct 2019 at 14:37

ElliorR said:
I will always go see Terminator films and hope for the best.

I don't think it'll be bad as a film, just bad as a "Terminator" film if that makes sense.

Gerard · 23 Oct 2019 at 15:32

Meddling-Monk said:
Bad news. Apparently those vfx we saw in the trailer, were the final product.

*shakes head*

Says who? Some of the reviews are praising the cg quite a bit, especially the de-aging of the t800.