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The end of selling game codes you get from buying a new GPU on the Members Market.

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by Ace Modder, 2 Feb 2017.

  1. dowie

    Capo Crimine

    Joined: 29 Jan 2008

    Posts: 52,502

    absolutely, though some people can have irrational loyalty towards brands

    for me I'd still be sticking with Nvidia at the moment because it would be useful to take advantage of the GPU support in some libraries that use CUDA
     
  2. Ace Modder

    Antec Rep

    Joined: 8 Sep 2003

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    Location: 150 yds from OcUK

    I personally prefer Nvidia, but only because they offer the better top performing cards.
    If AMD bring out a card to smash the 1080 I would look at switching.
     
  3. Diddums

    Capodecina

    Joined: 24 Oct 2012

    Posts: 20,587

    Location: London

    This is a fairly large incentive for people looking to buy tbh, the ability to sell the code reduced the outlay by x amount. This will almost certainly affect sales I reckon.
     
  4. MooMoo444

    Caporegime

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    Getting 30-60 quids worth of games is one of the major factors of me purchasing new. Nvidia get no money when I buy second hand and now I'm more inclined to do that. Seems odd to me.
     
  5. Diddums

    Capodecina

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    Location: London

    Yeah, they're firmly aiming for their feet with this move.
     
  6. MikeTheNative

    Sgarrista

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    Location: South Wales

    It's a bonus but I would never think of free games as a factor when choosing what hardware to buy.
     
  7. Uther

    Capodecina

    Joined: 16 Jun 2005

    Posts: 16,128

    This for me. I've sold a few game codes in the MM after card purchases.
    And if they do stop including game codes with the cards, I highly doubt the price of the cards will go down.
     
  8. Bazzards

    Wise Guy

    Joined: 2 Jul 2008

    Posts: 1,143

    Location: Near London

    Likewise, I have never felt the need to sell the game code on, always made use of them.
     
  9. a66as

    Wise Guy

    Joined: 13 Jan 2012

    Posts: 2,137

    Location: United Kingdom

    Imo the best way to tackle this is to sell it as part of the gpu, and if the game keys get used then make the gpu non returnable or deduct £40. I wouldn't want crappy geforce experience on my system just to verify a game download
     
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  10. nicktay2605

    Mobster

    Joined: 22 Mar 2007

    Posts: 3,860

    This must be the game publishers pushing this rather than Nvidia, I don't see why Nvidia would care either way. I guess the publishers are potentially losing out on quite a bit of money for each person who buys a bundled game code rather than buying from a vendor.

    edit: the ability to sell on bundled games has definitely been a factor for me when buying new hardware. I can work out how much I will get for the old bit of hardware that I'm replacing and then add on the money I'll get from selling the bundled games. Every little helps after all.
     
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  11. Avenged7Fold

    Capodecina

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    Location: Surrey

    I prefer AMD because of the price-point i buy at. I like the performance of a top end card but don't what to pay the huge premium to pay to have the title of the fastest card. For example, just 5 months after the 290x came out it could be had for £239 from some places!
     
  12. CREATIVE!11

    Soldato

    Joined: 21 Apr 2007

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    Yeah I happen to think AMD hold the edge a little now, I get my free pc game and better performa...... oh wait

    Just trying to start nvidia vs amd war :D
     
  13. D.P.

    Caporegime

    Joined: 18 Oct 2002

    Posts: 31,654

    This
     
  14. DaleTheWhale

    Soldato

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    Location: Tamworth, UK

    Can't wait to install SLI cards and redeem the game twice....
     
  15. easyrider

    Caporegime

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    Really?

    Buying new is more about warranty etc...

    I doubt people really care about a free game when Buying a 600 quid GFX card.

    A free game is nice but selling the code on to get 25 quid off is not the incentive for most.

    Having said that I bought a GTX 1080 one week with no promos on it....A week later Nvidia brought out the Gears of War free game promo IIRC

    I got onto the e-tailor via chat explained and they sent me £25 voucher code...:p
     
  16. Fishbait

    Wise Guy

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    https://arstechnica.com/gaming/2017/02/nvidia-game-codes-gfe-hardware/

    "Update: Nvidia has confirmed that while GFE checks to ensure a user has installed a qualifying graphics card like a GTX 1070 or GTX 1080, the game itself is not permanently linked to the hardware. GFE's hardware check is based only on the wider product range, and not on a specific serial number."

    Whilst I don't go "Ooh, nth game is included with nth hardware, I'll buy that instead" it does sometimes help in the decision when items are a close call for which I want to buy.
    When choosing headsets a couple years ago, two were so similar I wasn't sure which to buy, but one came with a "free" game so I thought sod it & bought that headset. Bloody good headset, but the game key was on a card with a "use this by nth date" which was long since gone. Didn't mind so much as headset was worth it, but slightly miffed as it was something I was supposed to be getting for free & was sort of ripped off. There was nothing on site or headset box stating there were limitations.
    Had similar when bought a gfx card from here too ages ago. Free game was time restricted & was long since over.

    Surely same goes for nvidia cards too. Something should state that there are limitations, like when laws state you have to have EULA/T&C etc on outside of box, instead of inside when it's already too late because you've opened the sodding thing ;p
     
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  17. Defiant306

    Wise Guy

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    These free games a flipping pain as well, I had a AMD card with a free game (BF4).
    I used the game thinking all is great. Then I started having issues with card and had to send it back. I was charged £45 for the 'free' game, it wasn't even worth that much and I never played it again as I wouldn't normally buy the game to start with.

    I wish they would sell the cards without the games, as others have said the free games are not free. I also agree that this locking down of games is stupid, the publishers are not loosing sales. They got paid for a copy each time, only one person uses the game code. It doesn't matter if its punter A or punter B, its still on one person using it!!!

    Sigh.

    OCUK, any chance you can relay your customers feelings back to your Nvidia contacts???
     
  18. AHarvey

    Capodecina

    Joined: 6 Mar 2008

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    Location: Stoke area

    Technically not true, if punter A buys a card and gets a game they get paid once.

    If punter B buys from punter A they have just lost out on a second sale.

    Do graphics cards have a unique identifier such as a MAC address for network cards? If so they may be looking at linking games to the ID of the card.
     
  19. SteveOBHave

    Soldato

    Joined: 31 Mar 2006

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    Location: Sydney Australia

    I personally think that it's as pessimistic and greedy as the rest of the media industry are with BluRay, games resales and the like. They don't seem to realise that if you treat a customer reasonably and charge reasonable amounts then they get their money (i.e. Netflix).
     
  20. olivier renault

    Sgarrista

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    Do you remember a time when the games you bought / were gifted were your property to resale on the second-hand market?