The nervous wait to exchange....

[Vita]

They’d be hiring an electrician to remove it. They’re a professional couple so I doubt they’d leave it in a dangerous situation.

Unfortunately it was not listed in the fixtures and fittings document neither was another thing which they’ve confirmed is part of the sale. I’ll have the FF updated.

The charger itself is a Tesla charger.

 

[b0rn2sk8]

For a new one they are about £460 plus installation, you are probably looking at £900 all in depending on the complexity of the install.

How much do they want for it?

 

[Vita]

For a new one they are about £460 plus installation, you are probably looking at £900 all in depending on the complexity of the install.

How much do they want for it?

Stated £500 then dropped to £400.

I’m a man of morals and principle we both understand there’s been a misunderstanding but as far as I’m concerned in the price they offered that they would be happy to settle on it was included.

 

[jb7]

What's the normal "response time" for your solicitors to look at enquiries? I'm a first time buyer, so I have zero context

Quite often with mine, I chase things, and they say "we received all the responses from the seller's solicitor last Tuesday, we will try looking at them later this week"

What are they doing all week?? Those enquiries are sitting "unread" in their inbox for over a week..

 

[b0rn2sk8]

I get the principles thing, we did something similar when we bought our house. The sellers made a big deal about these (admittedly nice) shutters they had installed recently when we viewed the house. When the inventory came they wanted £400 for them. We called their bluff because they were made to measure for that window. They didn’t take them when it came to it, that said we took them down not long after because they blocked too much light.

£400 isn’t an outrageous amount in the grand scheme of things for a good quality charger. It would cost them less to have someone come and remove it and it will cost a lot more for you to have a new one installed.

 

[Buffman]

Stated £500 then dropped to £400.

I’m a man of morals and principle we both understand there’s been a misunderstanding but as far as I’m concerned in the price they offered that they would be happy to settle on it was included.

To put it into context, how much are you paying for the house? Do you need an electric charger?

Id be tempted just to call their bluff and request the EIC certificate for termination /removal of the charger if you want to be pedantic. However like most people, I figure you don't want to lose the house so possibly £250 offer or zero?

 

[Unseul]

If you know a sparky, find out how much they say it'd cost to take out and make safe (roughly).

However, how much is the unit itself? Might be that it's cheaper from the people you're buying from to simply move their old unit, than buy a new one. Hence them wanting to take it. Yes it costs them to take it, but if it costs less than buying a new unit, it's still a saving for them. Calling their bluff only works if it's more expensive to remove (or close) than it is to buy a new one.

 

[Vita]

To put it into context, how much are you paying for the house? Do you need an electric charger?

Id be tempted just to call their bluff and request the EIC certificate for termination /removal of the charger if you want to be pedantic. However like most people, I figure you don't want to lose the house so possibly £250 offer or zero?

It’s close to £420k. Tbh I would like the charger. I plan to buy a Tesla not so far into the future so it would make sense to have it.

As far as I’m aware it is cheaper for them to remove and take rather than buy a new one at their new place. It’s annoying tbh, I don’t want to be stubborn about it but the question is why should I have to fork out extra when the offer we agreed on was as the house stood with some of the extras included.

 

[dlockers]

It’s close to £420k. Tbh I would like the charger. I plan to buy a Tesla not so far into the future so it would make sense to have it.

As far as I’m aware it is cheaper for them to remove and take rather than buy a new one at their new place. It’s annoying tbh, I don’t want to be stubborn about it but the question is why should I have to fork out extra when the offer we agreed on was as the house stood with some of the extras included.

Unless it is itemised then you didn't agree to buy it.

 

[Scam]

I’m a man of morals and principle we both understand there’s been a misunderstanding but as far as I’m concerned in the price they offered that they would be happy to settle on it was included.

Do you actually want it? If you don't need it, or it's not the right one for your car then you can always call their bluff and tell them they're free to take it away and as above ask for the relevant documentation. If you do want it then it's just a haggling match really. Weigh up the cost for you to get a new fitted versus how decent the one there is, if it works for your car etc. (I have no idea). If it works fine for your needs and a new one is £1000, then why not buy it or make an offer. As a recent FTB I discovered most of what the selling agent does or says go out the window once you start dealing with the adults (i.e. solicitors).

EDIT: Just read the above. Try to forget what it costs them. What will it cost you for the new charger once you've bought your Tesla? I'd be inclined to tell them to take it out of principle. I'd rather pay Tesla (or whoever ) for a new one anyway. Then you can rest easy knowing you've not been done out of that £400 to the seller.

What's the normal "response time" for your solicitors to look at enquiries? I'm a first time buyer, so I have zero context

I would say a week. I remember our solicitor saying that they couldn't chase the seller's solicitors for responses to queries because it hadn't been 10 days. But if your solicitor is sitting on work/answers for you, then that's just a bit rubbish and probably within a week I'd be hassling. There's no method to their madness though I'm afraid.

 

[Buffman]

It’s close to £420k. Tbh I would like the charger. I plan to buy a Tesla not so far into the future so it would make sense to have it.

As far as I’m aware it is cheaper for them to remove and take rather than buy a new one at their new place. It’s annoying tbh, I don’t want to be stubborn about it but the question is why should I have to fork out extra when the offer we agreed on was as the house stood with some of the extras included.

I get what you mean, for me something like that, or a curtain pole, a set of blinds, or a shed should be obviously included fixtures and fittings (basically anything tied to the house). Unfortunately that's not the way some people work!

My seller wanted to take a shed with them and I was perplexed as they'd have to dismantle it and take it through the house (there was no side access). Fortunately they offered to let me have iy free, presumably as I didn't try charge them for any of the issues raised in the survey.

 

[PermaChanged]

My seller wanted to take a shed with them and I was perplexed as they'd have to dismantle it and take it through the house (there was no side access). Fortunately they offered to let me have iy free, presumably as I didn't try charge them for any of the issues raised in the survey.

Conversely, our buyer didn't want our shed so we had it craned out - it was an expensive shed and we fully expected it to be included in the sale price and inventory of the property, we've even started shopping for a new one ourselves - £60 for removal, and £60 for delivery on a different date worked out very well for us!

 

[Buffman]

Conversely, our buyer didn't want our shed so we had it craned out - it was an expensive shed and we fully expected it to be included in the sale price and inventory of the property, we've even started shopping for a new one ourselves - £60 for removal, and £60 for delivery on a different date worked out very well for us!

Wow seems cheap price to crane a shed out! (and in) Winner all round.

 

[b0rn2sk8]

I get what you mean, for me something like that, or a curtain pole, a set of blinds, or a shed should be obviously included fixtures and fittings (basically anything tied to the house). Unfortunately that's not the way some people work!

That’s really not really how it works at all. You should assume it comes with nothing unless it’s listed in the inventory. It’s very normal for things like blondes and curtain poles to be taken.


To be honest, if you are looking to buy an electric car, £400 for a fully installed charger is a bargain and it removes a load of hassle when buying your first EV. It will fit and car except early Leafs which need an adaptor.

A new Tesla charger will cost you the best part of £1k to install from scratch as it’s not eligible for the grant. A non Tesla chargers still cost around £600 up to about £1k to have put in.

 

[Buffman]

That’s really not really how it works at all. You should assume it comes with nothing unless it’s listed in the inventory. It’s very normal for things like blondes and curtain poles to be taken.

Why would people take blinds when they can be a bespoke fitting? Seems odd to me! Same with curtain poles, I tend to buy them non adjustable and cut them to fit. Seems like a no brainer to me but not my issue I guess! Fortunately I won't be buying another house for some time I hope...

 

[Rroff]

Why would people take blinds when they can be a bespoke fitting? Seems odd to me! Same with curtain poles, I tend to buy them non adjustable and cut them to fit. Seems like a no brainer to me but not my issue I guess! Fortunately I won't be buying another house for some time I hope...

Where we moved into the seller wanted a load of money for existing blinds and curtains, we said no, they left them anyhow, when we had a look they were in a bit of a state with mould, etc. not to mention not at all to our tastes anyhow.

 

[dlockers]

Why would people take blinds when they can be a bespoke fitting? Seems odd to me! Same with curtain poles, I tend to buy them non adjustable and cut them to fit. Seems like a no brainer to me but not my issue I guess! Fortunately I won't be buying another house for some time I hope...

It is a pretty common "scam". Once you are sold STC there isn't move room to manoeuvre. An ex-gf at the time, her parents bought a massive house, with tonnes of intricately shaped windows with bespoke blinds. They stung them for £1800 (and they paid it) about 2 weeks before moving in.

 

[Buffman]

It is a pretty common "scam". Once you are sold STC there isn't move room to manoeuvre. An ex-gf at the time, her parents bought a massive house, with tonnes of intricately shaped windows with bespoke blinds. They stung them for £1800 (and they paid it) about 2 weeks before moving in.

Yep total ******** behaviour from sellers! I left mine and the bespoke curtains as I didn't need them. Some of these sellers should be embarrassed of themselves

 

[dlockers]

Yep total ******** behaviour from sellers! I left mine and the bespoke curtains as I didn't need them. Some of these sellers should be embarrassed of themselves

Agreed. This was ex-gf's family only able to move to the area due to a bereavement/inheritance so it really stung them. Seller on the other hand had just signed a lease on another new Range Rover

 

[MassiveJim]

It’s all going wrong!

early last week I provided dates to my solicitor that we are available to move (Tues/Wed/Thurs this week, with Thursday preferred)

Solicitor in chain below confirms Thursday as per my request and goes off to make arrangements

Then on Thursday it came back down from the chain above that they all want Wednesday, my solicitor is out of office in the afternoon but I am assured he would deal with it in the morning.

Lunchtime Friday rolls around and he is just getting around to contacting the solicitor in the chain below, they think it will be ok but need to confirm that the lender will release funds a day earlier.

I am using a separate solicitor for my purchase, so I relay this information to her and also fire across the insurance document she requested, I call to check she has it and then she drops the bombshell that normally my lender (being a specialist lender because I am self employed) takes up to 10 working days to release funds its now 4pm Friday so no chance of an answer today.

so today rolls around, still no confirmation from below and my solicitor is out of office in the afternoon
someone in this office did eventually get an answer that funds “should” be released tomorrow.

My purchase solicitor was out of the office in the morning and when I finally got hold of her in the afternoon was quite snotty and said she is in the middle of 2 other completions and will look at my case afterwards, I asked if I would get an answer today regarding getting the lender to release funds early and she says yes. however its 5pm I have no answer about confirmation on funds becoming available and she incorrectly answers another query via emails, I now cant get her on the phone.


So here we are 2 days (but really 1 day) before I'm supposed to be moving house and I don’t know if it actually going ahead or not.

Very peed off at this stage.

Following on from this, been a busy day. Everything fell in to place luckily and we're all set to move tomorrow.
Our seller agreed to let me move our 5foot aquarium today, thank god they did, what I thought was going to take 2/3 hours has taken nearly 6, left their house at half 10 as they were going to bed, I felt very embarrassed as I didn't think it was going to take anywhere near that long (had some issues asking the way which didn't help the situation) the sellers were absolutely fine about it though, no grumbling at all.