!!!! The OCUK Martial Arts Thread !!!!

[Richdog]

ba gua kan, a kind of extraordinarily violent tai chi.

Yeah, Bag Gua Zhang is another cool internal MA... very fast and consists of coiling/uncoiing techniques in order to generate power. It was widely used by bodyguards in China a couple of hundred years back.

If you want to learn about a SERIOUSLY kickass internal MA then take a look at this... Baji Quan (or The Bodyguard Art), when combined with the art Piqua (the softer aspects) that it is regularly taught with the old saying goes...

"When pigua is added to baji, gods and demons will all be terrified" and "When baji is added to pigua , heros will sigh knowing they is no match against it."

It was widely used by the hard-nut imperial bodyguardes in the last few centuries and revolves around short, powerful strikes using elbows, knees etc. It was one of the most feared arts there was http://www.geocities.com/Tokyo/Dojo/2457/baji.html

Another one worth looking up is Xing-Yi which is another internal art where one practitioner once famously won a full-contact MA tournament using just one type of punch http://www.shenwu.com/hsingi.htm

More about Tai-CHi http://www.shenwu.com/taichi.htm

More about Bagua http://www.shenwu.com/bagua.htm

Heh that's what I love about MA... there's so many different styles and things to learn about it's fascinating. others will no doubt be bored stiff.

 

[Makaveli]

Top judoka regularly beat top BJJ fighters in the ring, it is a highly respected yet oft-underrated art.

Oh really, which top judoka beat which BJJ fighter?

 

[Makaveli]

Since most fights in real life end up on the floor, I'd say it was a useful skill to have personally. Each to their own however.

if not on the ground a lot of standing *wrestling*. a nicely executed hip throw with the person landing on his head would end many confrontations

 

[nO}{8]

If you had the oportunity to be taught Gung Fu, by a REAL life hongkong gangster who has trained since he was 3 years would you take the chance? My father in law is now in the uk, -I just need the courage to ask him!

 

[Richdog]

Oh really, which top judoka beat which BJJ fighter?

Google it mate, there's plenty.

Oh and the most famous? Probably Hidehiko Yoshida vs Royce Gracie... Royce lost to a submission. Only the top BJJ artist in the world eh?

 

[Makaveli]

Google it mate, there's plenty.

Oh and the most famous? Probably Hidehiko Yoshida vs Royce Gracie... Royce lost to a submission. Only the top BJJ artist in the world eh?

Oh Really, care to tell me when royce won the BJJ World Championships . Hold on, care to tell me when he placed as a beaten finalist? Or if thats too hard, care to tell me when he got to the semi finals, quarter finals etc etc .

Tht fight was stopped by the pride referee as he thought royce was unconcious. However Royce claimed he wasnt, i dunno about that. But the rematch should have been given to Royce, but Yoshida was/is a posterboy for Pride being a former Japanese olympic judo gold medallist.

All arguing aside, if you cant do any BJJ, Judo is an excellent alternative. thoroughly reccommend it. After all if there was no Judo there wouldnt be any BJJ.

 

[Richdog]

Hmm i'm not making it a Judo vs BJJ peeing match, BJJ is widely regarded as the best grounfighting art there is. I was just making a point so someone else who WASNT YOU thet Judo is not some wet weak art consisting of pins... and that it CAN compete with arts such as BJJ.

That was the point I was making so put yer willy away. Capiche?

 

[Trojan]

Your Judo was lilkely a very watered down competition version then as opposed to true Judo.

Traditional Judo may well be taught as you say. The British Judo Association however teachs only pinning and hold down techniques to the best of my knowledge. Feel free to prove me wrong though

 

[Richdog]

No, Trojan you are very likely right mate, I was talking about Judo from a mainly self-defence aspect. Competition judo in many areas is HEAVILY crippled obviously due to not being able to use a vast majority of the techniques in a friendly "competition" situation, especially as many kids practise it.

I should have specified, my bad.

 

[Sanjuricus]

For the last time Judo is not a martial art it is a sport....





Only joking lol....Judo can be and is a really effective form of self defence...a typical Karateka for example, will have to beat an opponent unconcious to remain safe whereas a Judoka will grab, throw and choke...bosh job done, minimum fuss, lower Jail sentence!

Anyway, I know I don't post on here that much nowadays but I have to make this point one last time.... It ain't the style that counts, style is largely irrelevant. It is the Student and the Teacher that make a great Martial Artist. Just remember that point next time a peeing contest breaks out!

Be Nice.

 

[Makaveli]

Hmm i'm not making it a Judo vs BJJ peeing match, BJJ is widely regarded as the best grounfighting art there is. I was just making a point so someone else who WASNT YOU thet Judo is not some wet weak art consisting of pins... and that it CAN compete with arts such as BJJ.

That was the point I was making so put yer willy away. Capiche?

100% agreed hence

All arguing aside, if you cant do any BJJ, Judo is an excellent alternative. thoroughly reccommend it. After all if there was no Judo there wouldnt be any BJJ.

 

[PaulStat]

Ok a quick look at the bristol online website has revealed the following MA's available, which one would you choose and why.

Aikido
Kung-fu
Jitsu
Judo
Lau Gar Kung Fu
Ninpo Goshinjutsu
Ninpo Tai-Jutsu
Shoto Ryu Karate
TaeKwon-Do
Tai-Chi
Wing Chun

 

[Richdog]

Out of those my choice for practical self-defence would be...

Judo or Jiu-Jitsu to get a good base in ground-fighting... basically whichever one of the two allows you to spar (randori) the soonest.

Bristol Taiji http://www.bristoltaiji.com/self_defence.html

They teach Tai-Chi as a proper MA there, in fact the course aspects look pretty damn good, it's definately worth a look, and I think looks a bit better than the one above from what i've read of the course though naturally you'll have to go see for yourself. Preliminary examination looks very positive thoughm seems they cover a lot of self-defence. if you're looking for a Tai-Chi school and have the patience I suggest going for a gander.

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Now THIS place looks the shizz... just really caught my eye, the Mousavi Martial Arts Academy http://www.mousavi.co.uk/

It covers the whole shebang here...

We teach traditional Shaolin Kung Fu. Hung Kuen is the first system that we teach, however, other systems such as Lau Gar, Shaolin Wing Chun, Shaolin Flower Boxing and other specialised systems are also introduced as the student progresses. There is great emphasis on practical and functional application of techniques. Topics covered include traditional empty hand and weapon forms, pugilism, grappling, ground fighting, locking and holding, vital point striking, breathing techniques, fight strategy, modern and traditional training aids.

As soon as I saw it did this...

The sporting aspects of martial arts allow the students to compete against each other with full protective clothing and equipment, under the supervision of coaches, referees and judges. Safety is the number one priority. There are many different categories including semi-contact, full-contact and weapon-sparring.

... I was sold. ANY Kung Fu place that lets you get suited up and go at it in full-contact sparring is someone where I would seriously consider... it means you will get to actually apply the techniques you learn with speed and pace, essential if you want to learn seld-defence.

This would be my top choice out of all of the ones you listed.

 

[FishFluff]

*Bump*

Rather than starting a new thread I thought I'd bump this one.

Myself and Trojan just got our Yellow belts in Jujitsu tonight (7th Kyu). Much fun was had by all and thanks to Trojan for not breaking me too much during the chokes I still got a first class pass despite Trojan managing to sock me in the eye during the "Defence against a punch" section of the grading

 

[Richdog]

lol, about time this thread got revived... congrats Fishy on passing the grading.

I haven't been to MA for a good few months now due to lack of funds... I really need to get back into it as soon as I start work.

 

[Loki]

Went back to Kung Fu on Weds night. Not been for a few months due to college and other commitements. 1 Broken finger just for the entrance fee alone

Im still aching today.

 

[Richdog]

lmao... which place are you at again?

 

[Loki]

Pak Mei Wu Chi Yun in Manchester. Should have the website live soon.

The Sifu knew I hadnt trained properly at home. "Just for the benefit of Neil who hasnt been with us for a few months I think we will warm up with 50 press ups and 50 squats"

Boy was I the flavour of the class after that

 

[Richdog]

Ahh yes of course, Pak Mei you lucky git. It is very hard to train at home though... so easy to get out of routine. That's why I always prefer to go to class as many times as possible in a week when able.

 

[The_morrell]

Doing martial arts is great but its such a pain that there are so many different organisations for each one, makes it more difficult to travel around and train in other classes.