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The Official OcUK Vista Licencing Questions FAQ Thread

Discussion in 'Windows & Other Software' started by Burnsy2023, 3 Jan 2007.

  1. pcknight

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    I don't believe that OcUK are ripping us off at all. Why should i? They have always been reasonable with thier pricing with some good deals to be had. As OzyOly pointed out, it is MS and the High tax that makes the UK Vista very expensive.

    You need to grow up a bit mate. We are all having a serious discussion on here. Nobody is slagging OcUK off because we have no reason to!
     
  2. OzyOly

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    Exactly OCUK are selling it cheaper than nearly every other etailer.
     
  3. Burnsy2023

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    As long as you like.

    Under the terms of the Vista EULA, you have downgrade rights to XP, 2000 and even down to 98 and 95.

    Burnsy
     
  4. rapid64k

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    can we stick to thread topic please :)
     
  5. Macro

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    Sorry "mate" but you really don't get it do you.

    I was pointing out that the cost of Vista is not just down to MS and despite what you'd like to think it's not just MS making the money on it or setting the price.

    I pointed out that although OCUK, the distributors and everyone else in the supply chain make a slice of the cost in Vista you single out MS for criticism because you think MS are somehow ripping us off.

    You seem unable to grasp the basic fact that lots of people contribute to the cost of Vista and OCUK don't make a very different amount of money on the sale of a copy of Vista than MS.

    I also pointed out that you are prepared to **** off MS because you are unlikely to be asked to justify your claims, however even though OCUK make a similar amount on an OEM copy of Vista (give or take) you are not prepared to criticise them because you would be called to account.

    I'm highlighting that you make completely unproveable claims (like 99% of people are dishonest and rip off OEM copies of an OS), and can't understand that on a £80 copy of Vista it's not a case of MS getting 90% of the cost.

    If you believe Vista is too expensive you should take into account all the people making a mark up on it along the supply chain. If you believe OCUK make a fair profit on Vista why not MS.

    OCUK make a fair mark up on the products it sells, as do the distributors, packaging plants, printing companies, MS, transport companies etc involved in it's supply. It's wrong to single out one entity in the chain as it's not the full story.
     
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  6. bikes

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    Nice link ;)

    I would say MS could also fail on the eula because it fails:
    :D
     
  7. Macro

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    It never has been shown to be unfair and given the EEC willingness to take MS and other companies on if they think it's appropriate, and the fact that not one single legal or governmental body has suggested that the EULA is not legal it's unlikely to apply.
     
  8. pcknight

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    What are you on about? Are you from earth?

    I don't care who makes the most out of Vista. What is the above text you wrote got anything to do with the Thread?

    Vista is only too expensive compared to the USA where it is a lot cheaper.
     
  9. Rebelius

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    what don't you understand?
     
  10. Burnsy2023

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    Firstly a contract is only deemed void if the OFT decide the terms are unfair, and not if you just think they are. Secondly, the Vista EULA is pretty clear as EULAs go.

    Burnsy
     
  11. Yewen

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    Care to calm it down guys, if anyone has an issue with anything that has been said then please email me.

    It is an OS and not worth getting worked up over. :)
     
  12. pcknight

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    Exactly. This thread is going around in circles!

    PC's! They don't half cause heated debates!
     
  13. Yewen

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    Aye, it takes two to debate as well.

    Although if you get angry with a wall they can fight back, but yeh, it usually takes at least two sides to have a debate.

    Can we get back to helping people with their licensing issues now though, it is after all what the thread is all about.
     
  14. Burnsy2023

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    This thread is supposed to be about Frequently Asked Questions. It has gone way, way off topic. Can we get this thread back on the rails?

    Burnsy
     
  15. pcknight

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    Anyway. I will be getting Vista Home Premium when it comes out as my mate has Ultimate on his Laptop and it looks stunning. I do change components quite a bit so the retail version is the better one in the long run, especially as MS are rumoured to be getting stricter on the OEM reactivation process.
     
  16. Macro

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    My apologies Burnsy, I may have got a "tad" grumpy and got a little off topic :)
     
  17. Burnsy2023

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    Thanks guys

    If you disagree with any of my advice please don't hold yourself back and point it out.

    Burnsy
     
  18. OzyOly

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    Vista Licence FAQ

     
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  19. Burnsy2023

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    Can you do me a favour a make the text a bit smaller, it look garish on the PDA. ;)

    Thanks

    Burnsy
     
  20. Macro

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    Sorry but the last answer isn't the case.

    You will be perfectly entitled to upgrade any item in your PC with OEM Vista, and get a new activation code with the exception of a motherboard. The motherboard is considered the "heart" of the machine and to upgrade it would break the terms of the license. You may of course have your motherboard replaced under warranty if it is faulty however. If the same motherboard is no longer available under warranty the manufacturers supplied direct replacement/equivalent is acceptable.

    Burnsy will correct me if i'm wrong :)