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The RX Vega 64 Owners Thread

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So is anybody going to do fury vs vega with same clocks tests?

I can only find FE results. And they look very underwhelming...

EDIT - and what's with all the space at the end of that PCB that just looks empty?
 
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EDIT - and what's with all the space at the end of that PCB that just looks empty?

They could have had a much smaller card but presumably made it "standard" length for a high end card to make it easier for any aib's to add their own cooler to the reference pcb. Presumably why they kept it that size, its also why there's so much empty space, it simply wasn't needed for any actual pcb traces or anything of that nature.
 
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Awesome build bud. Looks fantastic :)

Very nice build Tony! ;)

I am gutted indeed regarding my Vega Liquid Edition, was very happy with it initially and coming from a Fury Pro it was making such a huge difference for me playing my games (playing in 1440p) :(

Thanks guys.

Tonight has been the first time in 6 months or so I've genuinely had a smile on whilst gaming. Now I've got The card cooled, it's a bloody joy maxing things out and making mince meat of 1440p. Think it's definitely the right move at £449. Freesync with it is fantastic.
 
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Got my RX Vega 64 AIO last night:

20170825_184248.jpg

What I'm using:
  • MSI B350m MORTAR w/ BIOS 7A37v16
  • Chipset driver 17.10.3401
  • Stock 1700x
  • Radeon 17.8.2 drivers
  • Stock Radeon Gaming settings
  • Tried Wattman on Power Save, Balanced, and Turbo. I do have Afterburner installed, though I hear that can cause problems
  • Corsair 2x8GB DDR4-3000 (CMR16GX4M2C3000C15) @2133MHz
  • EVGA SuperNOVA G3 850W 80+ Gold power supply
  • Two monitors using DisplayPort w/ FreeSync, one for gaming and one not. One additional HDMI output is cloned from the gaming monitor within Windows' settings
  • RTSS is running and enabled for PUBG
  • Gaming at 1080p, fullscreen windowed
What I've observed:
  • Played PUBG for a few hours. Had 2-3 system crashes where the screens went black and system unresponsive. Have to power cycle to get back.
  • PUBG performance was abysmal. This is a new system and GPU was the last part to arrive. While waiting, I was using a R9 Fury Nitro and getting minimums of around 60fps. With the Rx Vega 64 LC the minimums I'm getting are around 40fps. Water town is pretty terrible at 20fps. Some areas I'm lucky to get 100fps while others are 50-60fps, even at Very Low preset.
  • Played a game of Overwatch and got horrible FreeSync flickering that I never got with the R9 Fury Nitro (which hasn't had any issue playing Overwatch, even recently)
  • Haven't seen any issue with temps.
What I'm going to try:
  • Different HBCC, AA, and Tessellation settings with Radeon settings.
  • Uninstalling Afterburner and reinstalling graphics drivers after that. Not going to touch Wattman if I can avoid it.
  • Maybe go back to beta launch drivers, I hear those are good.
  • [Unrelated to performance issues] Replace AIO fan. I have the Sapphire version. Can I do this without voiding warranty if I avoid certain stickers/screws? Went to Home Depot today and got the T5 and T6 heads I needed.
  • Will also try with just a single monitor, exclusive fullscreen
Will greatly appreciate any and all advice!
 
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Got my RX Vega 64 AIO last night:

20170825_184248.jpg

What I'm using:
  • MSI B350m MORTAR w/ BIOS 7A37v16
  • Chipset driver 17.10.3401
  • Stock 1700x
  • Radeon 17.8.2 drivers
  • Stock Radeon Gaming settings
  • Tried Wattman on Power Save, Balanced, and Turbo. I do have Afterburner installed, though I hear that can cause problems
  • Corsair 2x8GB DDR4-3000 (CMR16GX4M2C3000C15) @2133MHz
  • EVGA SuperNOVA G3 850W 80+ Gold power supply
  • Two monitors using DisplayPort w/ FreeSync, one for gaming and one not. One additional HDMI output is cloned from the gaming monitor within Windows' settings
  • RTSS is running and enabled for PUBG
  • Gaming at 1080p, fullscreen windowed
What I've observed:
  • Played PUBG for a few hours. Had 2-3 system crashes where the screens went black and system unresponsive. Have to power cycle to get back.
  • PUBG performance was abysmal. This is a new system and GPU was the last part to arrive. While waiting, I was using a R9 Fury Nitro and getting minimums of around 60fps. With the Rx Vega 64 LC the minimums I'm getting are around 40fps. Water town is pretty terrible at 20fps. Some areas I'm lucky to get 100fps while others are 50-60fps, even at Very Low preset.
  • Played a game of Overwatch and got horrible FreeSync flickering that I never got with the R9 Fury Nitro (which hasn't had any issue playing Overwatch, even recently)
  • Haven't seen any issue with temps.
What I'm going to try:
  • Different HBCC, AA, and Tessellation settings with Radeon settings.
  • Uninstalling Afterburner and reinstalling graphics drivers after that. Not going to touch Wattman if I can avoid it.
  • Maybe go back to beta launch drivers, I hear those are good.
  • [Unrelated to performance issues] Replace AIO fan. I have the Sapphire version. Can I do this without voiding warranty if I avoid certain stickers/screws? Went to Home Depot today and got the T5 and T6 heads I needed.
  • Will also try with just a single monitor, exclusive fullscreen
Will greatly appreciate any and all advice!



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Soldato
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Posts
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Got my RX Vega 64 AIO last night:

20170825_184248.jpg

What I'm using:
  • MSI B350m MORTAR w/ BIOS 7A37v16
  • Chipset driver 17.10.3401
  • Stock 1700x
  • Radeon 17.8.2 drivers
  • Stock Radeon Gaming settings
  • Tried Wattman on Power Save, Balanced, and Turbo. I do have Afterburner installed, though I hear that can cause problems
  • Corsair 2x8GB DDR4-3000 (CMR16GX4M2C3000C15) @2133MHz
  • EVGA SuperNOVA G3 850W 80+ Gold power supply
  • Two monitors using DisplayPort w/ FreeSync, one for gaming and one not. One additional HDMI output is cloned from the gaming monitor within Windows' settings
  • RTSS is running and enabled for PUBG
  • Gaming at 1080p, fullscreen windowed
What I've observed:
  • Played PUBG for a few hours. Had 2-3 system crashes where the screens went black and system unresponsive. Have to power cycle to get back.
  • PUBG performance was abysmal. This is a new system and GPU was the last part to arrive. While waiting, I was using a R9 Fury Nitro and getting minimums of around 60fps. With the Rx Vega 64 LC the minimums I'm getting are around 40fps. Water town is pretty terrible at 20fps. Some areas I'm lucky to get 100fps while others are 50-60fps, even at Very Low preset.
  • Played a game of Overwatch and got horrible FreeSync flickering that I never got with the R9 Fury Nitro (which hasn't had any issue playing Overwatch, even recently)
  • Haven't seen any issue with temps.
What I'm going to try:
  • Different HBCC, AA, and Tessellation settings with Radeon settings.
  • Uninstalling Afterburner and reinstalling graphics drivers after that. Not going to touch Wattman if I can avoid it.
  • Maybe go back to beta launch drivers, I hear those are good.
  • [Unrelated to performance issues] Replace AIO fan. I have the Sapphire version. Can I do this without voiding warranty if I avoid certain stickers/screws? Went to Home Depot today and got the T5 and T6 heads I needed.
  • Will also try with just a single monitor, exclusive fullscreen
Will greatly appreciate any and all advice!

I'll be giving PUBG a blast later today, will let you know how I fare. Haven't had a single crash to far on my Vega64 LE.

Did you fully remove previous drivers via DDU safe mode etc?
 
Soldato
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Well guys, Vega64 is now under water with my EK goodies. Spent the day today taking the old loop apart, draining etc. Redid all the PETG tubing, was only able to keep just the one pipe from the existing custom loop, but nice to put in new anyway. Been leak testing for about 5 hours downstairs, just brought it upstairs were I'm happy to say it all seems to be working excellent, temps are amazing :) :)

Took some pics of the PCB, Vega die, the waterblocks and some pics of the build for curiosity if anyone wants to know what it looks like under the hood, and the almost finished article. Just need to put the back cover on the case, and do some small colour coding, but fairly happy with it. Was going to put all 6 Vardars in push/pull but think i'll only need 4. I've a spare one in the base of the case that I can always move to the rad to pull air through if I need more cooling. At 21c idle on desktop and 37c running benchmarks, I don't think it will be needed though.

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Very nice :) What core frequency have you managed to reach so far? Can you flash the LE AIO's BIOS to allow higher board power etc, or are you stuck with the air cooled one?
 
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FYI to RX VEGA 64 AIR owners.

RX VEGA 64 AIR can be flashed to RX VEGA 64 Liquid. This IMO is more beneficial to RX VEGA 64 AIR with WC blocks. It has lowered throttling temps for GPU / GPU VRM / HBM VRM IIRC from last time I viewed PowerPlay between the 2, AIR users may experience temp related clock throttling more. These could be adjusted using the registry mods within my thread on OCN.

Anyone using the registry mods please be aware they are stock setup for each card until you mod them.

OCN member kundica provided full RX VEGA 64 Liquid VBIOS, a thread on Reddit plus kundica's further posts on the OCN confirm it worked, read from here those that are interested. Be aware this is warranty void territory.

RX VEGA AIR 56/64 temp limits in PowerPlay

Code:
(89°C)    USHORT usSoftwareShutdownTemp;
(105°C)   USHORT usTemperatureLimitHotSpot;
(74°C)    USHORT usTemperatureLimitLiquid1;
(74°C)    USHORT usTemperatureLimitLiquid2;
(95°C)    USHORT usTemperatureLimitHBM;
(115°C)   USHORT usTemperatureLimitVrSoc;
(115°C)   USHORT usTemperatureLimitVrMem;
(100°C)   USHORT usTemperatureLimitPlx;
(85°C)    USHORT usTemperatureLimitTedge;

RX VEGA 64 AIO temp limits in PowerPlay

Code:
(74°C)    USHORT usSoftwareShutdownTemp;
(105°C)   USHORT usTemperatureLimitHotSpot;
(74°C)    USHORT usTemperatureLimitLiquid1;
(74°C)    USHORT usTemperatureLimitLiquid2;
(95°C)    USHORT usTemperatureLimitHBM;
(115°C)   USHORT usTemperatureLimitVrSoc;
(115°C)   USHORT usTemperatureLimitVrMem;
(100°C)   USHORT usTemperatureLimitPlx;
(70°C)    USHORT usTemperatureLimitTedge;
 
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Associate
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Posts
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Location
London
Got my RX Vega 64 AIO last night:

20170825_184248.jpg

What I'm using:
  • MSI B350m MORTAR w/ BIOS 7A37v16
  • Chipset driver 17.10.3401
  • Stock 1700x
  • Radeon 17.8.2 drivers
  • Stock Radeon Gaming settings
  • Tried Wattman on Power Save, Balanced, and Turbo. I do have Afterburner installed, though I hear that can cause problems
  • Corsair 2x8GB DDR4-3000 (CMR16GX4M2C3000C15) @2133MHz
  • EVGA SuperNOVA G3 850W 80+ Gold power supply
  • Two monitors using DisplayPort w/ FreeSync, one for gaming and one not. One additional HDMI output is cloned from the gaming monitor within Windows' settings
  • RTSS is running and enabled for PUBG
  • Gaming at 1080p, fullscreen windowed
What I've observed:
  • Played PUBG for a few hours. Had 2-3 system crashes where the screens went black and system unresponsive. Have to power cycle to get back.
  • PUBG performance was abysmal. This is a new system and GPU was the last part to arrive. While waiting, I was using a R9 Fury Nitro and getting minimums of around 60fps. With the Rx Vega 64 LC the minimums I'm getting are around 40fps. Water town is pretty terrible at 20fps. Some areas I'm lucky to get 100fps while others are 50-60fps, even at Very Low preset.
  • Played a game of Overwatch and got horrible FreeSync flickering that I never got with the R9 Fury Nitro (which hasn't had any issue playing Overwatch, even recently)
  • Haven't seen any issue with temps.
What I'm going to try:
  • Different HBCC, AA, and Tessellation settings with Radeon settings.
  • Uninstalling Afterburner and reinstalling graphics drivers after that. Not going to touch Wattman if I can avoid it.
  • Maybe go back to beta launch drivers, I hear those are good.
  • [Unrelated to performance issues] Replace AIO fan. I have the Sapphire version. Can I do this without voiding warranty if I avoid certain stickers/screws? Went to Home Depot today and got the T5 and T6 heads I needed.
  • Will also try with just a single monitor, exclusive fullscreen
Will greatly appreciate any and all advice!

Sorry to hear about the black screen crash, if you are unlucky as me I'm afraid it is the beginning of the end :(

Try to put the card in Power Save mode and d'un PUBG and other games again, if you still get black screens then I'm afraid you might have a faulty card like mine.
 
Soldato
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Very nice :) What core frequency have you managed to reach so far? Can you flash the LE AIO's BIOS to allow higher board power etc, or are you stuck with the air cooled one?

Thx mate.

Reached 1749mhz core and 1050mem last night without even trying, which was with 1080mv voltage. I will play today and see if I can drop it to 1000mv. My target is 1800mhz.

Didn't know there was a different bios. My chip is weird though, it shows in gpuz and Wattman that 1632mhz is my default cloxk speed. I thouggt the air versions were 1547mhz boost.

I don't know if I'll bother flashing to be honest. Maximum temp I've seen benching and gaming is 36c and that's with my vardars on the rad only spinning at 1300rpm
 
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I'll be giving PUBG a blast later today, will let you know how I fare. Haven't had a single crash to far on my Vega64 LE.

Did you fully remove previous drivers via DDU safe mode etc?

Yes. I've tried 17.30.1051-b6-aug7 and 17.8.2 and the PUBG update (17.8.2) performed worse than the beta launch drivers. I'll continue to test, but I was actually getting over 100fps consistently on the launch drivers, but still struggle to hold 60fps with 17.8.2
 
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Sorry to hear about the black screen crash, if you are unlucky as me I'm afraid it is the beginning of the end :(

Try to put the card in Power Save mode and d'un PUBG and other games again, if you still get black screens then I'm afraid you might have a faulty card like mine.

Had only one black screen tonight for about 6 hours of PUBG, moving between launch drivers and 17.8.2
 
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Weird one this morning.

Just put the new 17.8.2 driver on this morning and gave it a test. Last night on the old 17.8.1 driver I successfully benched the card at 1749mhz, yet this morning no matter what I set the core frequency at (dynamic or frequency percentage) the core clock does not want to go past 1632mhz.

Edit 2....just tried again, it appears the clock frequency is out again, well for me anyway. When I set my core frequency, the actual frequency seems to be 15-20mhz lower than it's meant to be.

One other question guys. Do you leave your HBM voltage at 1050mv?
 
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Well guys, Vega64 is now under water with my EK goodies. Spent the day today taking the old loop apart, draining etc. Redid all the PETG tubing, was only able to keep just the one pipe from the existing custom loop, but nice to put in new anyway. Been leak testing for about 5 hours downstairs, just brought it upstairs were I'm happy to say it all seems to be working excellent, temps are amazing :) :)

Took some pics of the PCB, Vega die, the waterblocks and some pics of the build for curiosity if anyone wants to know what it looks like under the hood, and the almost finished article. Just need to put the back cover on the case, and do some small colour coding, but fairly happy with it. Was going to put all 6 Vardars in push/pull but think i'll only need 4. I've a spare one in the base of the case that I can always move to the rad to pull air through if I need more cooling. At 21c idle on desktop and 37c running benchmarks, I don't think it will be needed though.

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It's a gorgeous looking build, I've been wondering whether to take on such a project, Is it really quiet? I ask because I had a Corsair H100 a few years ago and the Vega AIO I returned and they were not quiet.
 
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It's a gorgeous looking build, I've been wondering whether to take on such a project, Is it really quiet? I ask because I had a Corsair H100 a few years ago and the Vega AIO I returned and they were not quiet.

Thanks nice of you to say.

It's a quiet as u want it to be as I've several different fan profiles. When browsing and not gaming it's borderline silent. When gaming it's quiet but Can here the fans as I've set them to 1300rpm....and benching well I just let them rip at full pelt so obviously a lot louder.
 
Soldato
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It's a gorgeous looking build, I've been wondering whether to take on such a project, Is it really quiet? I ask because I had a Corsair H100 a few years ago and the Vega AIO I returned and they were not quiet.

The pump on my Vega64 LE is extremely quiet. I've tested it with all other fans turned off (my PSU has a passive mode) and stopped the aio's radiator fan, extrmely quiet. The AIO's fan however is not silent, I'll be getting it replaced with a nice Noctua industrial and plan to run it ~800 idle and 1200rpm load, temps allowing of course.
 
Caporegime
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Got my RX Vega 64 AIO last night:

20170825_184248.jpg

What I'm using:
  • MSI B350m MORTAR w/ BIOS 7A37v16
  • Chipset driver 17.10.3401
  • Stock 1700x
  • Radeon 17.8.2 drivers
  • Stock Radeon Gaming settings
  • Tried Wattman on Power Save, Balanced, and Turbo. I do have Afterburner installed, though I hear that can cause problems
  • Corsair 2x8GB DDR4-3000 (CMR16GX4M2C3000C15) @2133MHz
  • EVGA SuperNOVA G3 850W 80+ Gold power supply
  • Two monitors using DisplayPort w/ FreeSync, one for gaming and one not. One additional HDMI output is cloned from the gaming monitor within Windows' settings
  • RTSS is running and enabled for PUBG
  • Gaming at 1080p, fullscreen windowed
What I've observed:
  • Played PUBG for a few hours. Had 2-3 system crashes where the screens went black and system unresponsive. Have to power cycle to get back.
  • PUBG performance was abysmal. This is a new system and GPU was the last part to arrive. While waiting, I was using a R9 Fury Nitro and getting minimums of around 60fps. With the Rx Vega 64 LC the minimums I'm getting are around 40fps. Water town is pretty terrible at 20fps. Some areas I'm lucky to get 100fps while others are 50-60fps, even at Very Low preset.
  • Played a game of Overwatch and got horrible FreeSync flickering that I never got with the R9 Fury Nitro (which hasn't had any issue playing Overwatch, even recently)
  • Haven't seen any issue with temps.
What I'm going to try:
  • Different HBCC, AA, and Tessellation settings with Radeon settings.
  • Uninstalling Afterburner and reinstalling graphics drivers after that. Not going to touch Wattman if I can avoid it.
  • Maybe go back to beta launch drivers, I hear those are good.
  • [Unrelated to performance issues] Replace AIO fan. I have the Sapphire version. Can I do this without voiding warranty if I avoid certain stickers/screws? Went to Home Depot today and got the T5 and T6 heads I needed.
  • Will also try with just a single monitor, exclusive fullscreen
Will greatly appreciate any and all advice!

We got another one :(

The failure rate on these AIOs must be astronomical.

EDIT:

Have you got 2x seperate 8-Pins plugged in ?, as i have read, that if just using the one cable, that splits into 2x, it can cause problems.
 
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We got another one :(

The failure rate on these AIOs must be astronomical.

EDIT:

Have you got 2x seperate 8-Pins plugged in ?, as i have read, that if just using the one cable, that splits into 2x, it can cause problems.


That's what about 6 or so? Assuming it is wonky. Not a bit of wonder they're rarely in stock, the limited allocation appears to be going to replace dodgy ones.
 
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